TWW Gearing is Good But Can Be Improved

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Gearing in TWW is a much welcomed improvment compared to past expansions but suffers from the requirement of collecting boring currencies (crests, valorstones, etc).

Can we just kill bosses => get loot?

We don’t need to upgrade gear. If we remove that feature, we wont need to collect another currency.

Proposal:

  • Drop Crests and Valorstones
  • Keep Catalyst and Catalyst charges. Gear from Delves and M+ require this.
  • Let pre-raid gear set bonuses from dungeons make a come back. (see Vanilla for examples)
  • Limit crafting mythic quality loot by only giving us epic patterns that drop from content with the occasional Robes of the Archmage - style exception. I would say 1 item per armor type. Something really good but replaced in mythic raid.
  • Perhaps add more drops to increase the ilvl of crafted items.
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No thank you. This upgrade system is what I asked for ever since Korthia. I can now upgrade the pieces with the stats I want, instead of being stuck with stats I don’t want and constantly having to try to fill that slot with what I do want, going through piece after piece, enchant after enchant, etc.

The upgrade system is awesome. I absolutely WANT to upgrade gear. I absolutely DO NOT want to go back to the old, crap system.

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I like the upgrade system since it helps give you progress instead of just waiting on the right piece to drop at the higher ilvl

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Goodness, yes. And it’s absolutely awesome for casuals. We have actual progression for our gear now.

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The upgrade system is one of the best things about current gearing.

Only tinkering I would do is remove valor stones from the upgrade.

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Oh yea, I’d yeet the stones into the stratosphere

Youre swimming in them at the start and forced to throw away hundreds, then you’re out of them once you can start upgrading and oh dang you ran out since you had to delete so many

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Yeah it works. I’m glad you like it. I find it unnecessarily complicated.

There’s some merit to that. Fully upgrading an LFR Spymasters is more powerful than all heroic raid trinkets (other than another Spymasters)

Yeah all valor stones do is force grinding content.

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It’s not complicated though

You do content, you get an item to upgrade your gear within the confines of how difficult that content is.

I don’t think ya fully realize how much worse gearing and progression would be with no gear upgrading

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I do though. I’ve played since 2007 and prefer it without extra systems. Kill things => collect loot.

Im not saying I have a hard time with understanding it, I’m saying it is overly complicated. The sheer number of systems in this game is a huge deterrent for new and potentially new players. Source: my friends who no longer play.

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I’m mostly just annoyed with how pointless Hero Track loot is.

For all intents and purposes, Champ = Hero.
Which means Delves = Heroic Raids, even sans Delvers’ Bounty.

Which is insanity.

(Speaking about generic gearing here - obviously raid has specific OP drops over Delves, but the generic stuff is no different)

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If your friends are citing how complicated it is to understand the gear upgrade method…I have questions.

Gearing before was worse.

You had less progression. You had less reason to play. You had larger gaps between people doing different content.

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Yes kill things collect loot

Except for the loot you get from gathering currency, or reputation, or other things

Kinda like systems

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And more reason to play alts, RP, world pvp, try other content, seek out achievements, etc. Varies from player to player. I’m not sure why there’s a desire to constantly upgrade gear past it’s origin. My main can’t really get any more loot right now outside of mogs and I still raid with the gang. It’s actually more enjoyable for me without worrying about rewards, which was unexpected.

Yeah, with new characters I just skip all item brackets under Gilded. Theres no reason for it outside of players who aren’t interest or cannot do gilded dropping content.

With the addition of delve 11s dropping gilded, everyone will be in myth track gear anyway.

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Speak for yourself lol.

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at least remove the 2k cap on valorstones

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That’s exactly what I’m doing.

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Not when you’re saying “We”

The upgrade system is fine.

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This isn’t relative to the topic and just argumentative. I’ll be ignoring this type of response going forward but feel free to participate in discussion.

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Not being argumentative at all.

Anything can be considered complicated when you refuse to learn it, but ofc your average WoW player isn’t even willing to do the bare minimum of that.

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We have never had more reason to play alts today. We dont need more reasons to play alts. We need more reason to have a “main”.

Because people want more player power and progression. Its the cornerstone to the game.

Then dont worry about the rewards, and let others partake?