The spec is already performing incredibly bad during prepatch in raid (worst spec in game by numbers) and m+ (B for Bottom tier), now blizz nerfs our completely revamped talent set around living bomb by 50% (why revamp 10 talents for Living bomb just to nerf it into oblivion?) As a fire enjoyer and someone who put dozens of hours into actually becoming decent at my favorite spec i will be unable to play it for an entire expansion. Not sure if Arcane is even fixed and frost is like the hunter spec of mage… it is so boring/slow paced and provides zero customization when it comes to playstyle… TWW= Play frost or dont play the class. Get ready for perma lance and glacial spike #MALD
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If you actually care about the health of Fire as a spec you wouldn’t want to be pigeon-holed into Living Bomb talents all the time. Mandatory builds suck. That’s why it got nerfed, 50% of your damage coming from LB isn’t good.
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While I agree that the overall health of the spec is better if Living Bomb is balanced with the rest of our damage.
The information that you’re not factoring in is that Living Bomb/Lit Fuse IS our damage on live (Which the damage of LB will be going away all-together next patch). Nerfing that below the floor while not compensating in other areas adequately makes the spec feel really bad in Raid and M+.
Fire is incredibly disappointing on beta right now. I stopped logging into it because it sucks the fun right out of the game when you need to be carried by your teammates.
To clarify: I don’t need to be TOP DMG DPS MEGA S-Tier. I just want to be competitive and not a liability. That’s all we really want.
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It’s so frustrating to watch the only “new” part of the spec be nerfed to oblivion because somehow it wasn’t patently obvious from the get-go that a ridiculous spread mechanic that no one asked for was going to be a nightmare to balance.
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Yeah when patch drops tomorrow we’re going to be last place by such a large margin that we will be barely competing with tank dps…
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Well this is new. The mage dev usually treated fire like the teacher’s pet. Sucks though.
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I already made some suggestions to make fire viable but as always here or in any forums if I am not superb famous or write a wall of text about it, it gets ignored by the whole community.
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I have only heard complaints about fires tuning. As a fire mage enjoyer myself, I am REALLY hoping blizz is currently undergoing some tuning for it after obliterating it’s damage. Living bomb definitely needed some tuning but what has been done has made it a joke.
Hoping they have been taking this time to fix it.
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Ya and now we got pigeon-holed into frost or arcane because fire is so bad
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meanwhile boomkins hit starfall and triple our damage. What a game
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I’m with you. Taking heat for this post being called delusional for wanting the most challenging and rewarding spec to be not worst in the game lol. Better start hitting dummies and learning arcane if you havent already. Frost piece of cake build DC and try to use comet storm before glacials and ur orb lance spam for the 6% boost + deaths chill. For arcane watch preheat i think he’s done a good job with the APL. Maybe S2 or 3 fire will be playable but certainly not for this raid tier. Thanks for stepping up so i know i’m not alone thinking this…
This is true if you don’t think about it. Considering FS builds still saw considerable amount of LB damage it was a tuning issue separate from LB completely that pigeon holed us into one spec.
The shame of it is that Fire genuinely feels better to play with the actual gameplay changes (imo), but the tuning absolutely blows chunks compared to Frost or Arcane, both beta and prepatch from my experience.
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Making half the tree do absolutely nothing isn’t the way to fix this. Now you’re just pigeonholed into the left side of the tree instead.
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