Two-Handed Mastery

So, is two-handed mastery going to stack with flurry then? So 2H gamers will essentially get permanent flurry (every time you attack you get 30% speed for 10 seconds) and then flurry on top of it? DPS shaman seemed kinda weak compared to the other classes in P2, but this might go towards balancing it out… if it does work this way.

It probably will. I finally have motivation to level a shaman, I just wish they had given shammy/pally to both factions so that I don’t have to split up my toons :frowning:

I could give you the math on why it won’t matter and will be worse than dualwield, but I don’t want to ruin your fun!

WF has a 3 sec internal cooldown anyways right?

So RB would remain king.

BRB gonna switch to Horde.

This won’t help our pathetic dps. Still going to be the worst melee dps in both PvE and PvP.

Yup it’s baffling how it’s literally just, a 10% increase over the haste from the warrior rune at the cost of losing an entire Imbue, offhand attack, 10% SPELL AND MELEE HIT(very important with the new MSW proc rune) , lose an instant attack with no lava lash, and nothing else? No reduction to stormstrike cooldown, no additional melee attack?

Shaman received 0 runes to change AP to spellpower but ret paladins did???

Enh Shamans recieved runes focused around spells but have no innate Sp scaling for these runes now(fire nova belt or MSW)?

No instant ghost wolf still???

L.

I hardly doubt you won’t just be dualwielding and two hand is likely even less bursty than dualwield due to lower MSW regen, half the imbues , and less buttons to press to front load damage.

Compared to the new paladin runes, new shaman runes are underwhelming.

I don’t think it has a 3s internal CD in vanilla. You can get 2 wf procs back to back with a dagger.
It might have a very quick internal cd, but definitely not 3s.

edit: i got curious and started looking around on wowhead. i found this page, which lists a duration of 1.5 seconds. https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=8233/windfury-weapon
I think i remember seeing a windfury aura coming and going in my combat log when wf procs, and I think this is it. So theres possibly an ICD of 1.5s.

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Not only that, if going 2H we will go oom still and would need to weapon swap to double RB for SR mana regen.

Looking like another phase of tanking and getting ele gear for PvP.

The mined class changes show a 14 second cooldown reduction and 70% mana cost reduction. If that actually happens, that will be cheap 6 second Stormstrikes.

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I saw that, but I am wary since blizzard said “no datamined outcomes are necessarily coming to pass” but if so, that would be very nice, but it also buffs DUAL wield just as much as 2h.

Yeah, I’ve been hoping they do something like this for Stormstrike, and it makes a lot of sense. It’s a pretty weird/expensive ability in its original form. 6 second cd and 70% reduced mana cost makes it a lot better and more in line with other enhancement stuff, like Lava Lash.

So fingers crossed.

why is no one understanding that this is trash? missing out on 400+ AP from offhand enchant and now missing hit%? May at most be a gimmick of stars aligning in pvp lol.

Because 20% for 2h warriors is just SOOOO amazing LOL

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I think it roughly balances out with DW if you factor miss chance, dw rune and imbues. It seems DW will be slightly better without maelstrom, it is possibly way better when you include MW. IMO the big question is how does Maelstrom actually work under the hood?

What I mean by that is will 2h have the same average amount of MW procs over time? Is it PPM or just a raw % chance with each hit? etc

edit: looks like they might add https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=432134/static-shock too, which i think will make dw way better in pve since its % chance