/shrug twinks are the bigger problem in leveling BG’s.
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Disagree. While it sucks to get 2 shot by a twink, at least they are participating while the lazy leveler runs into a wall on the roof.
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Except both sides will generally have the same ratio of bad players so it doesn’t matter to the people actually playing.
Whereas twinks actually make it not fun for the legitimate players.
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Wouldn’t the same apply to twinks? I mean if you’re going to justify afk boosties by being equal on both sides, the same logic should apply to twinks.
And what part of it is fun when you have a boosted character, sometimes multiples, not particpating and turning the match into a 7v10?
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Not at at all because someone afk isn’t one shotting a legitimate player. Sure afkers might turn the game into a 8v8 instead of a 10v10 but that isn’t terrible.
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I don’t have an issue if the boosters queue AV, and then immediately use the honor to buy a weapon, then begin gearing up the rest of the slots. Once decently geared, they then queue for other BG’s.
But when they queue Warsong in all their boosted greens, they are just gimping their team. Also, it seems like many just bank the honor to use at 80 instead of using it immediately to gear up.
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Tell me you don’t do low level PvP without telling me you don’t do low level PvP. It’s inaccurate to assume all games have equal boosted afks because that’s rarely the case.
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Over time it evens out.
Oh good. That makes the last 4 games with the same 3 boosted rogues sitting in stealth OK because it averages out and players have become so apathetic to it, they rarely get kicked.
Boosted xp leeches are as much a problem as anything in low level PvP. Just because you don’t like twinks does not make that untrue.
I don’t disagree they are however two separate issues. And the twinking problem is easily solved by just separating the queues.
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Segregating a segment of the game that already has low participation is not the fix you think it is.
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No it is not a fix for twinks who only want to roll levelers and don’t want to have competitive pvp.
This was proved when blizzard did separate the queues and only the twink queues suffered.
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Actually the first time blizzard separated twinks low level bg participation went up. Afterwards they stated the change would remain permanent because it got the desired results. And the twinks still had their games they just weren’t as thrilled about it.
I def only queue at the high end of the brackets and even at level 29 on my bear druid, that was reasonably geared from tanking dungeons, was getting 2-3 shot by rogues ambushing
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Let me repeat, Wrath classic cannot be compared to what happened 15 years ago. The player base was not split among multiple versions of the game. Everyone who played Warcraft played Wrath back then. That is not true today.
Yeah I’m gonna need to see a source for that because I was around back then too and I don’t recall seeing anything to support that claim.
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CTA weekends many work off the idea its xp.
It can be More convenient xp than questing so num locking to your doom at least has that.
With the chance you lose the twink crew once in a while. saturday I was getting a string of losses. But once in a while the alliance team was not the “loved” team. And we’d win win that one. or it not be a blow out. it be the gg for a loss that was actually a good game.
then you’d get the twink team again and go at least I got the daily win bonus today!
Twinks are the reason low level bgs never get played by non twinks.
Once a potential pvper realizes this, they simply don’t do bgs till they hit max.
The first week they separated twinks from normal players in bgs, participation skyrocketed.
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If twinks are moved to their own bracket the non twinks would start crying “I get 1 shotted by a level 19. Why is someone 8 levels higher allowed to play with a level 10”.
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This just isn’t true. Also the reason Blizz didn’t separate twinks is because they want to keep BG participation active. I posted it in the other thread where the vocal minority that complains about Twink could learn.
Twinks is a core part of WoW and helps this game flourish. Lets not start ruining BGs like they did in Retail by separating brackets for this tiny vocal minority that wants to AFK in low level BGs.
Continuing the discussion from XP gains from PvP in Wrath Classic:
If you aren’t upgrading gear at low level, enchanting your gear, learning professions, using pots/flask/food. You just aren’t playing the game. That’s on you.
The only players that complain about Twinks are the ones that don’t play the game.
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/shrug the reality is twinks are just people who can’t handle a fair match in pvp and rely on massive gear advantages to win.
If blizzard separated the queues like they should we’d see the exact same thing we saw originally. The EXP on queues would do just fine and the twink queues would die because they wouldn’t have their one shots to farm.