So you have nothing to offer of value to the thread.
No I meant to say what I said. Are you gonna troll? Or is it just that difficult to understand.
The gear gap is as extreme as any low level BG and as more Phases come out it only increases as people get Raid gear, Tier sets and Shadowmourne.
100% Arp in Tier sets with Raid trinkets and Shadowmourne is just a max level Twink that will kill someone by looking at them. They will have more KBs in an 80 BG then any low lvl Twink.
yea 80 BGs are the wild west. itâs just alts farming gear, and bots. actual geared chars are incredibly rare.
I donât think any serious pvp enjoyers are queueing 80 bgs besides when new seasons start to get the new offpieces. Even then you can just Wintergrasp / Hellfire towers
Then itâs a literal 50% chance that you will get some pve trash bg (strand isle AV).
As for 79 twinks i think itâs kind of cringe but other brackets are fair game. Itâs old school wow, you shouldnât queue at low levels without expecting some twinks. Just get your pvp trinket asap then queue at 80
But do they have wins?
80 to me is won or lost more on playing the objective well. I donât care about damage or body counts. Did we win? this is what matters.
I can get 1 million damage and 10âs of kills fighting for workshop in IOC. or I can see other side is demo spinning flag from hangar and not even waste my time there. I can See how defended hangars is, kill the dude(s) on refinery/quarry to slow down damage from air ship now become options to me.
The latter is maybe less kills/damage numbers, but more effective.
An RPG, a role playing game, simply isnât inherently a gear grind.
Itâs a role playing game.
MMORPGs are, as you and that article points out, very much a gear grind, but it very rarely has any actual role play.
So an MMORPG is simply vastly different from an actual RPG.
No it isnât. At one point decades ago it was. Now over time it has changed and itâs been explained to you. When people say RPG they are stating gear based/power progression game. When the Devs say RPG they mean gear based game. Iâm literally telling you what people are saying and their intentions. If you ignore that you are just being ignorant.
Example: When Templates were removed from Legion. Ion said âTemplates removed the RPG aspect of the game.â It had nothing to do with role playing, it had everything to do with the gear and player agency. RPG means customization through power achieved by gear, that changes your character. Itâs the player agency we need and why we log in too RPG games.
If gear doesnât matter in PvP there is no reason to play this game. We literally tried removing the RPG aspect of the game in Legion with Templates, It was massively hated!! The Devs admitted they were wrong and removed Templates because it destroyed RPG PvP.
Canât explain it any other way. Not going to feed you anymore. Donât ignore facts or what RPG means when people say it.
RPG means customization through power achieved by gear, that changes your character.
Iâve been playing online RPGs for 23 years. I only play RPGs because I love power progression and gear based PvP. Before WoW I enjoy D2 PvP which was another great RPG PvP game. RPG PvP is the real PvP.
Got it. Good, not explaining it again. Good day and good bye.
Whine as old as time.
Yea itâs hilarious and never gets old. If they just realized they are playing an RPG (gear based game) Then just enjoy the core aspect of the game and geared up. These problems go away. Then they could farm and roll over people.
If you are at the top of the score board you always win.
Those German jet planes in WW2 were scary as heck. We should have forced them into their own bracket instead of spending so many resources on countering and getting up to their level.
It quite literally doesnât though, but go on, if thatâs waht you wanna tell yourself be my guest, Iâll keep calling you out for it.
An RPG is a role playing game. All there is to it.
I feel like this shouldnât be a required statement, but apparently it is.
WoW is a video game.
WW2 was a deadly war.
We can use real-life strategies for our video games. Seems like if you utilize resources, you can over come a disadvantage just like real life.
If there are no resources to do that, then a change can be made.
But a change was made, they let you into the regular brackets again.
Shouldâve just kept it all the same and let yâall lose on yourselves.
I donât like BGs at all and only ever did them for off pieces for arena.
When was that changed? I thought OG had it exactly like this.
OG had xp-locked characters in their own bracket.
It failed spectacularly cause yanno, itâs not exactly as if theyâre in it for a fair fight.
I see now. 3.2 is when it was added and then they got placed into different brackets.
I am remembering TBC I think when I went in, got blasted by a twink, then got some gear and went back in and was able to hold my own but it was a real challenge since I wasnât fully decked out.
I will change my stance since they SHOULD be in their own bracket. Figures blizzard would do something like this.
This is my main issue. with my sides twinks if we get them even.
They have the muscle, cool. They donât use it in the most effective ways sometimes.
Iâve had WSGâs we were begging for help from our twinks to clear a gy camp. they were off killing the other sides lowbies.
They were off running up meters elsewhere.
OkayâŠI can cancel rezâs as I donât feed gy campers. 2 monitors, youtube on the second. Not how Iâd like to make xp. But its xp none the less.
Why I only run wsg on ctaâs for levelers. When this happens its still okay-ish xp. For some of the sub 70 brackets it can be marginally better than some quests there sadly.
My experience of showing up as a non-twink in low level BGs where twinks are allowed in is:
a) the twinks on your side will at best sigh at you, at worst tell you to drop dead from cancer
b) the enemy twinks will home in on you all day long
Are there exceptions to this? Of course there is. But in general, twinks arenât twinking for the challenge of it.
Which is bloody obvious cause you have like 3 skills at the lower levels.
Itâs not just extremely cringe, but safespotting is also a reportable violation (cheating) of Blizz terms. I encourage you to report and have your team report him when you see him do this. He needs to experience a ban for it, though you are right that Blizz doesnât really care.
If I played Alli, Iâd totally have him on /ignore. He does seem to have a very high opinion of himself.
see you in the gulch 
Many people report them, blizzard just doesnât care. But if you say a few curse words you can get a 1 week silence like butter on bread.
It is what it is. The easy cure is make an Alliance toon. Horde twinks are rare and most of them honestly suck. The 29 bracket right now is a straight up XP harvest for Alliance lol zero effort or challenge from horde side.
When the sweatlords start wargaming you can easily just play another toon or go watch some TV. Let them edge each other over killing blows on AFK bots.