Okay, I think that after the release of the last part of the main campaign, we can say that Turalyon is a good guy? He has NO business being a villain in this game.
The guy is literally a portrait of a healthy relationship. He loves his wife, trusts her more than anyone (even more than Light).
In Alleria’s story, it was clear that he suffers with her absence, that he loves her and their son very much and does everything he can for the family.
At the beginning of the campaign quests, they were shown talking and how Turalyon will wait for Alleria, whenever she needs space or something, he will wait for her.
And now, at the end, it showed a relationship based on total mutual trust, a husband and a wife who know they can trust each other.
Taking all this into consideration, there is no plausible scenario in which Turalyon would be the villain.
Blizzard could still ruin this, but I don’t think so. Turalyon is religious, but that doesn’t mean he’s a fanatic. He’s a man, a father, a husband, and the current ruler, who wants more than anything to be with his wife, and fate seems to always be trying to test their love.
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I think he’s safe… from raid bossing, at least. They’re shoring up other Light-aligned villains for that inevitable mess and BfA scared them off the concept of faction war, which is Turalyon’s only other avenue for villainy. And after BfA a lot of players probably wouldn’t even count a “Warchief Turalyon” arc as villainy.
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He’s a good guy for sure.
A big green flag…
The problem is the death flag on the horizon, I’m still not sure he will be unscathed to the end of this expansion.
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He was never a bad guy. Hell, people on another thread are calling him a zealot because he made a cheeky comment of the horde being savage. Like…play as an alliance character and the orcs also make a cheeky comment about the horde. That doesn’t mean he wants to kill all orcs anymore. He is over 1k years old now, that war left his system long ago.
They also bring up the Illidan cutscene but man…the whole point of that cutscene was Illidan opening his eyes to reality and the story quests from then on out was just him coming to grips with it.
They also bring up him using the light to burn people into giving information…which is badass but also not zealotry, just war. Because he wife was literally using the void to do the same thing right next to him.
He is 100% a good guy. It is just the community gets all frothy from the mouth when a light based character has a morally questionable choice being done. We don’t second guess when a druid, shaman or warrior does it, nor a shadow priest, but when it is a holy priest and paladin, now it is straight to Zealot.
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I wonder what it is about devout religious figures in a medieval setting that people are suspicious of?
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I think a portion of it might be that some people view religious people as something bad. Or they just create an expectation based on the scarlets or AU yrel.
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The infamy of the Catholic Church and Anglican Church prosecuting the Protestants maybe?
Add that to the Puritans performing Witch Hunts and there you go.
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Don’t forget the Catholic church also being prosecuted a lot as well. All religions were prosecuted at one point. Difference is, in warcraft, the light actually is real magic and heals people. Also it works off positive emotions and the people wielding the light are vastly less likely to go evil because of it. That is what makes the scarlet crusade truly scary. Yrel storyline was just an asspull if we are going to be honest about it.
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It also doesn’t care about how good you are, only how much conviction you have.
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Like all the magic in warcraft it seems.
I enjoyed the irony of the Dracthyr calling him a zealot in Dragonflight.
Turaylon has been absent from Azeroth for millennia and before he left the horde and dragons were “evil”. Not to mention Stormwind later being run by Onyxia and Wrathion’s misadventures.
When he returns and becomes regent, he allows the Dracthyr to enter and sends aid to their cause. Instead of embracing what he “knew”, he was reasonable.
It is the exact opposite of what a zealot would do. He is able to discern good and bad.
Yet the Dracthyr calls him a zealot. That’s another tonal disconnect from the writing.
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I can’t imagine why they’d call him a zealot when his immediate reaction to finding out about visages is to start imagining dragon spies under his bed (and yes I’m aware of Onyxia, I still refuse to accept the nonsense about how she had totally charmed the whole house of lords instead of just saying exactly the kind of things the feudal nobility wanted to hear).
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When does that happen? I thought the SI presence was because of Wrathion.
It is also ironic because the Dracthyr were fiercely loyal to Deathwing and just had their worldview shattered.
His stay a while and listen on the Stormwind docks before you leave for the Dragon Isles.
I kind of figured a dracthyr might consider him a zealot because given their origins and original function, the dracthyr tend to have a pretty demystified and scientific worldview, so anyone as devoutly religious as Turalyon would seem overtly zealous to them.
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Yeah, like the community, Blizzard also doesn’t understand what a Zealot is. The scarlet crusade were zealots. Turalyon takes what is new, thinks about it, and tries to process it and accepts it. That is the exact opposite of a Zealot.
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I’d have to check it out again then. But I don’t think that’s the most unreasonable course of action. It just sounds like he is being cautious. This occurs after he already lets the Dracthyr in and approves the expedition.
I would prefer that explanation to be honest. That is a more nuanced take. But, I’m not sure that is what was intended.
I mean yea he is an alliance character they don’t go bad
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I mean, Khadgar was given death flags in Shadowlands. Look what happened with that.
Now you get it. Serious I am more concerned about Yrel. She is the more likely candidate for raid boss material.
I am not sure Yrel will ever get brought up again. I think the Arathi Empire have taken up that spot, and she and her Lightbound Orc army will just get memory holed.
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