I’m in this shaman discord and they’re all just doom posting about enh being bad after the nerfs. Class discords suck.
Frankly that’s a skill issue.
Where is that Holy Priest guy who writes essays? Forgot his name? Are these Holy Priest buffs enough?
They are indeed good buffs, the PvE section gave both Holy Word heals a 25% buff too so the reliance on Flash Heal spamming will be reduced so it’s an indirect mana buff too, only thing we didn’t get was Renew buffs.
It won’t dethrone Disc as the preferred Priest healer or anything like that but it’s more competitive.
time zones are a crazy
Everyone needs to relax. Tuning isn’t even live yet.
Would of been better if nothing was said about unholy, that was embarrassing… now we gotta wait another month for class tuning.
Another month just hanging in bgs yayyy
1 Like
Ready to not get dodged by players who prefer a class over skill. 
All jokes aside, it is time to hang it up. At this point, this spec will forever be a joke. Rerolled MW and going on to my x main to heal makes me want to cry.
Did they actually just buff unholy by something like less than 3% damage in the most roundabout way possible?
Also can someone please find a history of all aimed shot/rapid fire shot buffs/nerfs to marks over the years? I swear that spec is yoyo’d more than anything. When you can’t make a spec work by buffing or nerfing the same two abilities then maybe it’s a design issue?
2 Likes
For this iteration of marks, it had mostly negative PvP modifiers until double tap went away. Around the same time that they nerfed a bunch of arms warrior, wind walker, etc. talents, as well as base crit, double tap went away and they put significant +damage modifiers on its base shots in a similar fashion to how base windwalker and arms damage got buffed in lieu of major talent nerfs.
Enter this expansion, the old dark ranger gave you +30% damage modifiers to aimed and rapid, alongside an easy to manage dot that you just cast on something for passive damage and buffs/recharges to your base spells.
Dark ranger rework deletes all of these class spell buffs and puts in the new mechanic of black arrow replacing kill shot and having new effects, and all of the hero talents just revolve around black arrow. All of this just passively works a lot better with bm, for one. But the scary part about marks is how withering fire interacts with trueshot every time, and the entirety of ptr got tested with a bug in place that made black arrow benefit from mastery twice for it. Post bugfix and subsequent nerfs, black arrow just doesn’t hit very hard and the rest of marks damage is effectively nerfed by 30%.
The problem to watch out for is just how random withering fire is. Base damage of aimed and rapid being too high starts risking random one shot conditions but all of it is based on whether or not the hunter gets rng procs at specific times, which is still not something I think we want to contend with. Withering fire should probably just be nerfed by 75% in PvP and have a choice node that does something else. There will be a point where withering fire needs to get nerfed and base damage needs to come up even more, and you will then be contending with the concept of just not filling out the entire hero tree being the best option so that you can actually cast unnerfed black arrows in trueshot when you get procs.
You guys are all nerds.
5 Likes
What’s the other besides whirling
Super interesting balance patch. Really nothing (except blood dk and ele damage redistribution) got nerfed, and all the underperforming specs (arcane, fire, unholy, frost dk, ww and dh) all got buffs. Seems like ww were for sure the winners of this tuning patch!
Very SMALL changes all around, but a lot of them!
1 Like
I mean ox biggest hit I’ve seen is 130k currently.
Tiger at about 328k
Crane biggest hit 98k
BoK proc seems not too bad of an increase, since I’ve seen about the same as RSK currently, always felt bad for monl when proc is strongest dmg and can’t control.
It will be a good start, but I don’t think it will give enough pressure dmg
2 Likes
Ww overbuffed. Now its no longer feral being king… lets add ww to that
3 Likes
Idk priest discord isn’t bad. I look at Shadow stuff but they are all pretty respectable people / opinions.
no chance you think that
1 Like
these changes are insane. WW could possibly be ret 10.1? DF level broken. They forgot to add pvp modifiers to ALL these buffs? lol
1 Like
you must not have read the WW changes. LOL
2 Likes
Everyone loves a cringewalker meta.
1 Like