Care to guess the Shaman nerfs we will see in this first tuning pass?
Personally, I don’t see anything worthy of nerfing, but Blizz has a habit of dumping on Shaman just for the lulz I guess.
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Shaman throughput is considerably higher than most other healers right now., on top of the bevy of major cooldowns. That’s why most mythic teams are planning on stacking Resto Shamans.
I’m not sure if they’ll end up nerfing them, but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me. They nerfed Discipline just a couple weeks ago for similar reasons.
Spirit link is shamans only actual major CD. Don’t take ascend in raid and HTT isn’t really that great. Shaman throughput is quite high right now though you’re right. We’ll see how that plays out on fights that aren’t stacked though.
As far as I know most Mythic teams are not planning to stack Rshams. They’ll prob take one for sure, but if you’re stacking classes it’ll be disc.
@OP I would be expecting a nerf to healing wave as that is basically a lay on hands rn
HTT is a raid wide healing ability. It’s definitely a strong cooldown and does a ton of healing for only costing you a single GCD, it’s just not strong compared to Spirit Link, which is absurdly strong. You can also take Spiritwalker’s Tidal Totem and turn mana tide into a strong throughput cooldown.
They’ll probably stack Disc for spread fights, but they’ll stack resto shaman for cleaves.
Yeah maybe haha, I might just have a grudge against it because its pretty bad in dungeons.
I’ll be curious to see whether the good guys are playing this, as both Earthen Harmony and PTC are performing better in terms of HPS numbers. You’re right thought it is a very strong raid CD.
They’ll stack disc because of the passive damage, plus good healing. Hpal prob for aura mastery. I doubt we’ll see double rsham on anything other than super niche fights
Rshaman is no slouch in single target damage, particularly when they have a few mobs to funnel flame shocks off of.
Yeah but on prog though? At the beginning of an expansion with little gear on 8 minute boss fights where you need to really conserve mana? I don’t think we’ll be seeing shaman pump too much damage. A little maybe, but nowhere near hpal/disc.
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HST to get a nerf due to Resto but Ele and Enh get caught up in healing nerfs as always.
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Uhh why would HST be nerfed? 
I think it’ll definitely be our mana efficiency. Not sure what form it will take, but outside of BG’s I pretty much have to TRY to run myself out of mana
If I had to guess ENH is going to get some sort of nerf to either Doom Winds or Windfury. I do good dps without doom winds but as soon as I pop it things melt and we all know Blizz can’t let Shaman be good.
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Every top 100 raid team will have a RShaman in for prog, especially in a tier where stacked healing is king. Unless Paladins gotten some crazy buffs, you’re better off bringing a RShaman.
Oh yeah for sure rsham required just for link, just prob not stacking them
Ok cool, cuz I was really confused at first lol. On the same page then.
It’s hard to say what is going to get nerfed, this xpac has been soo much fun. I main enh and I feel pretty strong, but I also see several other classes bursting, dpsing, and owning just as hard as i do.
I will be really surprised if Rsham doesn’t get nerfed, not that it really needs a nerf it’s strong yes, but it’s not disc/Hpally of the past strong. I’m going to bet they will hit healing wave or riptide. The necrolord/ PTC combo is really fun and even though I feel like resto more is less just in the conversation for top 3 they will hit it hard as someone in Blizz hates shaman.
I also see enhance and/or ele getting hit as they are shaman dps and have to pay that hybrid tax priest and druids are exempt from.
Guessing that’s gonna change in raids and M+…
Traditionally shaman suck the first raid tier and always needed buffs to be competitive, let’s not put these thoughts out into the universe that we will get nerfed lol. It feels nice to not feel broken for once straight out of the gate. I get it, resto druids are considered mediocre for raiding but the answer isn’t nerf the sh*t out of shaman.
Im not sure what there is to nerf besides just reducing numbers on a few things. Resto Shaman are currently very strong but it’s not effortless strength, you need to play very well to get the most out of Resto Shaman, so they need to be careful not to nerf it in a way that makes everyone switch to the braindead easy to use skills since the complicated ones got nerfed.
Cloudburst is a good example of having a high skill ceiling and being really really strong. If they nerf it basically at all it becomes not worth the required focus and attention, and then we switch to a boring passive.
One thing I will say is this; Is the Resto Shaman having the best throughput on stacked raid encounters really a problem? The strength of RShaman right now primarily stems from the types of encounters in the raid fitting their niche well. It’s like if all the fights had damage ramp ups to raid wide bursts, Discipline Priest would be the most overpowered healer ever since its perfect for their skill set.
Its certainly a weird feeling to feel very strong in the first patch of an expansion as a Shaman.
Nature’s guardian will now form a celestial ancestor that decapitates the shaman when procced while Mindgames is active.
Lava Burst removed.
Ascendance now healls all enemies within 100 yards.
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