Ok, i’m leveling this new monk who will be my main from now on, and since that, i had the chance to revisit both what was my favorite part of leveling a night elf, and what was my favorite part of leveling a monk.
And the part of leveling a monk i enjoyed the most, was the Peak of Serenity daily quests, not only they provide a daily source of XP boost, but it is a part of class fantasy that you don’t get as other classes (mainly as someone like me that only started wow for real on 8.0 and class trainers don’t do anything), but then, some doubts started rising.
I know that monk trainers have been put on the starting zones and “retrofited” to the beginning of cataclysm, that the pandaren starting zone apparently happens before that, and is from there that the monks that teach alliance and horde come from, but then i have some questions about that.
How no one at the Alliance or Horde knows Pandaria exists when they arrive there? I know the location of pandaria has been lost for the members of the wandering isle for a long time, but they knew it existed and they came from there right?
How there are masters training in the peak of serenity of other races already? How they got there?
If monks can go to the Peak of Serenity via meditation (and i know is more of an astral projection than a teleport), why was the knowledge of reaching pandaria lost to begin with?
It seems confusing to me this timeline relating to monks, pandaren and pandaria.
It was likely known to the Azshara’s empire, but since the surviving hobo night elves lived in who-cares land, they likely would not have known. Or, if they did, it literally became the least important thing after the Sundering. I’m sure someone who knows more than me can elaborate, but yes they probably did know Pandaria was a thing.
When the Pandaren joined the rest of the world, the other races wanted in, so they went to train and got good.
Likely (re-)?attuned themselves to the place.
Your question about the timeline isn’t something that can really be answered. PC monks canonically go straight to Pandaria, so a pandaren monk goes to the temple in Kun-Lai and monks around. Then, the various races of Azeroth think monkery sounds cool, so they travel to the temple, learn and successfully got good. Cue, then, everything else.
Gameplay > timeline sequence in this case. You’re better off just creating some reasonable headcanon on the topic.
Pandaria was shrouded in mists just before the Sundering (first Legion invasion) 10,000 years ago which concealed it from the world. I believe it was the Cataclysm event that ruptured the protective mists and made it visible once again.
Yeah, but the Alliance and Horde had pandarens already on their ranks when they “found” Pandaria, so while the location being a mistery, they should have known it existed.
Eh what do you mean by this? The player Pandaren characters are from the Wandering Isle, which from time to time returns to Pandaria (every 5 years or so) but has stopped for a few generations since the death of Liu Lang. But they joined the factions around the same time as the Mists receded.
Well, no. The Wandering Isle Pandaren do not know how to reach Pandaria. There was an entire mini series about Li Li and Chen Stormstouts trying to find their way there.
The Wandering Isle used to return to Pandaria every few years, but hasn’t done so for centuries. The Huojin and Tushui Pandaren had no idea how to reach their ancient homeland.
This is incorrect. The events of the Wandering Isles actually happend after Pandaria is first rediscovered.
The Skyseeker, the vessel that crashed into the Wandering Isles, was actually on Pandaria for a time, located in the Jade Forest. It was sent back to Stormwind, and while lost in the fog, crashed into the Wandering Isles.
The Pandaren joining the Alliance and Horde happen after, not before, the faction begin their initial findings of the continent.
As for the non-pandaren monk trainers, I think those are just random people who at some point ended up on the continent and couldn’t leave.
Surprised someone who plays discount Highborne has forgotten about the gift the Pandaren sent to Azshara.
" Before the Night Elves were addicted to arcane magic and summoned the Burning Legion to Azeroth, the pandaren were a close ally to the night elves. Some of them even lived with the night elves and witnessed the power of the Well of Eternity. Yet after the night elves became obsessed with the well, the pandaren decided to sever their ties and enclose their border in Pandaria
Before they left, the pandaren decided to offer the Highborne a gift, a chest of pandaren design, said to contain all the arcane magic they would ever need. The gift was accepted and taken down into a royal vault in the Temple of Zin-Malor. However, when the chest was opened, it was found to contain absolutely nothing. The pandaren’s gift was actually a message of advice and wisdom to the Highborne: all the arcane magic they needed was nothing, or in other words, that they did not need it at all. The chest and the message it represented continued to exist in the vault even 10,000 years later, but as history would record, the pandaren’s wisdom fell on deaf ears."
I don’t know why my choice of race would affect my knowledge of the game? This character has been a night elf, blood elf and now nightborne - keep this RP a mile away from me, thank you. You’re also incorrect, as nightborne can realistically be full priced highborne.
Also, a reminder: high elves for Alliance never ever!
Discount Highborne ? Nightborne are the original, first gen Highborne. They are the same caste as Azshara and Suramar City was the Jewel of Azshara’s empire.
Well they are literally the only playable race whose war history is not only sparse but always always defensive in nature. It wasn’t until the rest of us showed up to their continent that things changed for them. The shado pan are much more aggressive these days as evidenced by both Taran Zhu and Taoshi… god I love her. She’s such a credit to pandaren.
Mogu, Zandalari, Mantid, Yaungol, Saurok, and (at times) Hozen.
Sparse.
Look, the only reason they don’t have as extensive a history of conflict is because they shut themselves off from the rest of the world. And they still were in conflict with a lot of the natives of Pandaria…natives that sided with them in overthrowing the mogu empire, if memory serves.
…I just don’t like the whole holier-than-thou attitude they frequently showcase.
Pandaland has an entire zone that can explain away any timey-wimey shenanigans of “this don’t make sense!!”
Non-pandas on Pandaland before the Horde and Alliance even arrived? Post-invasion people who got lost on the Timeless Isle and ended up in the past! How’s it that monks existed on the other continents when all the monks were hidden in the mists? Timeless Isle chicanery!
All your questions can all be answered by the Timeless Isle did it.
I was. I may have a touch of Purpleitist but in Spirit, we’re still High Elves, still loyal to our true Allies, who didn’t follow that Lunatic to Outland, or sell ourselves to our Enemies and who escaped the Traitor Rommoth’s attempts to Brainwash us.
The lore for the race pretty much states t hat you were all Blood Elves who got kicked out of Quel’thelas for studying the forbidden work of the arch-traitor Dar’khan (the big bad of the Sunwell Trilogy manga.) You then all got yourselves voided as a result of even more reckless experimentation in that Void pocket dimension of yours.
You’re basically in the Alliance because the Horde considers you too monstrous to fit in, but the word of Alleria Windrunner still carries enough weight to give you all admittance to the Alliance.