Is troll priest a mistake for pvp focused priest? Anyone get Shadowguard yet to confirm if its worth it? I really like undead animations but i dont want to gimp myself if troll is better for pvp. Thank you
Yes will of The Forsaken is better
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Thank you for the info, really appreciate the advice. Is it hard to survive being attacked by rogues and mages without shadowguard stunning? Undead can survive OK? Ill mostly be playing healer in BGs and occasional shadow for fun since dual spec is coming.
We won’t have trinkets for awhile.
If you’re horde you already have a massive advantage because you fear and the rogue on you can’t break it, the mage would need to block it.
Being able to break fear is incredibly strong.
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Thank you so much for the pvp advice. 
Troll shadow priest is BiS shadow priest for a few reasons.
Shadowguard > devouring plague.
A few reasons for this. One is the talent blackout gives you a 10% chance to stun when you cast a shadow spell on an enemy. Shadowguard gets that 10% chance for every tick. That means with one global you have 3 chances to stun.
Another reason is the spell damage scaling. Shadowguard scales 1:1 with spell power. 33% of your spell power is applied per tick. It does A LOT of damage especially considering it’s an instant cast spell with no cooldown.
Another reason is devouring plague is kinda bad. It can be removed by enemy paladins and priests, has a long cooldown, and costs a lot of mana. The 24 second duration also means it does not scale well with spell power.
Hex of weakness > touch of weakness
Hex of weakness reduces healing on the target by 20%. Not as good as mortal strike, but worth using when healers are around. Touch of weakness is almost useless. It’s kind of ok against rogues.
Will of the forsaken > berserking
This is the one thing that goes to undead. But it’s not enough to compensate for how good shadowguard is. And berserking is far from useless. Macro it to use with max rank greater heal and pop it when you’re low on health and you have yourself a quick emergency heal. Very handy!
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So if i go healer you pretty much have to spec blackout if you’re troll to get the value of the racial?
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Shadowguard is really only useful in conjunction with the Blackout talent, and even then the utility is rather limited. It’s unreliable for proccing the Blackout stun, but it’s nice when it happens.
Hex of Weakness is overshadowed by Mortal Strike and Wound Poison, but for low-level PVP, it’s the only form of healing reduction there is. And the spell is a curse, so it gives Troll Priests and edge when fighting Paladins (not that Priests really need that) or othert Priests.
The best thing about Trolls is we look the best, no matter what we’re doing. Never underestimate the power of swag in PVP. Aint nobody got casting animations like Trolls.
I actually really like the look of Undead for healer priest gotta admit it looks cool
Wrong. It does big damage. It can do over 400 damage a tick. 1200 damage for a single instant cast. You’re a dang fool if you don’t prioritize keeping that up.
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If you’re not getting hit, it’s not doing much damage. So, no, I’m not “wrong”. Ask a Mage to buff you with Arcane Intellect so you better understand the difference between a disagreement and being factually incorrect.
If you’re not getting hit you don’t have to refresh it. It lasts 10 minutes.
I said nothing about the duration. Take your half-L and stop letting your ego compel you to spout more weird takes.
Some need Arcane Intellect??
Shadowguard is good for stunning and has its niche uses but spamming Rank 1 Shadow Word: Pain is more than enough for just about every situation which is why Undead is stronger, both are good though… play what you prefer
I would say if you’re new to PvP go Troll
Don’t mean to offend you. I’m just saying the damage is very good on shadowguard. Like VERY good. It’s an extremely underrated priest racial. It’s so good that your PvP damage rotation would prioritize keeping up shadowguard just after shadow word pain. SW:pain is the only ability that trumps it in damage.
In case you weren’t already aware, it procs off of all damage, by the way, not just physical or melee damage. It will damage a mage casting on you.
Another thing to consider about it is you go into battle with it already pre-casted. So with good gear you’re doing 1200 free extra damage even if you never cast it during combat.
Please don’t listen to these people they have no idea what they’re talking about Shadow guard is a meme.
Will of The Forsaken and devouring plague are much much better and way more reliable
Nah. It really isn’t. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people kill themselves on me. It’s OP. It is THE BEST priest racial for shadow PvP.
Honestly the undead vs troll shadow priest debate comes down to will of the forsaken vs shadowguard. Will of the forsaken is nice, but you’re a dang fool if you overlook the value of shadowguard.
Also, I’m curious, have you actually played a shadow priest?
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Yes I did shadow on era and Everytime I got feared I hated my life.
Shadowguard is just meh.
It’s annoying to keep refreshing as you’re leveling and odds are you might not even have it on you if you get ganked while fighting mobs.
Maybe it performs better in a duel tournament when you’re only fighting players but wotf and DP are way more reliable.
Dp does more damage than SG.
For a single cast it does. But the potential DPS of shadowguard is higher, and it has no cooldown. So if shadowguard gets dispelled, no big deal. If devouring plague gets cleansed that suuuuuuccksss. It’s so bad if it gets cleansed that in many situations you would have been better off not even casting it with how much mana it costs.
I will admit, undead shadow priest might be better early game and in phase 1 at least in some situations. But late game troll shadow priest is better for sure with how much better shadowguard scales with spell power.
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