Traditional Flying Coming to the Dragon Isles in Guardians of the Dream

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

Apparently you have to play one way because BlizZard is afraid that players might have fun playing many other ways.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

I checked again and it is still stuck at 8 likes at the top lol.

Patchfinder might be boo’ed again at BlizZcon.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Stelio-turalyon

but pathfinder is been happening for close to 10 years now,

also, this is the last expansion i play without normal flying.

i didn’t play wod at all because you removed flying… i came back in legion, no normal flying so i stopped playing the game until antorus patch when normal flying was available.

i didnt play any of BFA, not even after you put normal flying in because i would have had to get revered with two new reps.

i played a bit of shadowlands and quit early season one… didn’t come back until 9.2 when we had normaly flying.

dragon riding was enough to keep me playing the game… but i absolutely loathed it and i would never engage with it again if you timegate flying next expansion.

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Rigatoní-area-52

@Kaivax

Freshscales Fifteen – Achieve renown fifteen with all major factions on the Dragon Isles: Dragonscale Expedition, Maruuk Centaur, Iskaara Tuskarr, Valdrakken Accord, Loamm Niffen, and Dream Wardens.

raises hand
That is a bit excessive, do people really not care about renown that much in this game that you have to extend it, and actually force people who hate DR to do it?

i don’t care about renown at all. i don’t think i have renown 15 on any character with any faction. i play almost exclusively for m+ and like to play alts.

fortunately i enjoy dragonriding and don’t care about old flight in DF content, so i’m good

[Sinelius-area-52]

REMOVE freshscales fifteen - why does it exist? We had to wait until LAST patch and its behind a grind that often requires DR…

[Sorelai-wyrmrest-accord (Sorelai)]

@Phaeliea-nathrezim

It looks like they removed the requirement for the Emerald Dream storyline, unless that was never there. REGARDLESS this should not be a thing.

I am sure the story will be completed before most people hit renown 15 with the Dream Wardens.

But yeah, pathfinder should be retired.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

Their metrics for this expansion must be really bad to force this upon players. But at some point they need to throw their tablets in the dust bin and say lets make something fun that players will enjoy.

[Rollo-thunderhorn (Rollo)]

@Kneeshooter-amanthul

Yes, I found this puzzling. I heard that it wasn’t available in Forbidden Reach for reasons which I haven’t figured out yet, if it’s true. Cost saving, maybe?

Not sure what they’d be saving in any zone.

Corpse-mode old flight works everywhere in the new expansion. Live old flight shouldn’t work any differently or require anything that corpse-mode doesn’t already have.

[Xiata-bloodhoof (Xiata)]

@Fairlight-emerald-dream

Dungeon diver? Put on a tabard and get 100 rep for each boss, and 10 for each min while you wear the tabard. Can apply to raid, too.

I miss this so much! I love dungeons and raids, and did get some of the older reps with said tabard method lol

[Kennie-malganis]

@Rigatoní-area-52

I mean flying has always had some sort of requirement

We got dragonriding basically the hour we stepped foot onto the isles, though, and the glyphs an hour or two later.

[Rigatoní-area-52]

@Pyri-shadowsong

i don’t care about renown at all. i don’t think i have renown 15 on any character with any faction.

Same. I don’t do it. Shadowlands has forced me to retire from renown.

[Khronys-aerie-peak]

Very, very, very unnecessary. Kaivax, no joke, you lot over at HQ are detached from reality.

Renown 15 also for Dream Wardens, … really … why in holy azeroth is any of this even needed if only to force people to do irrelevant content so the lead devs can say people play their content.

Yeah I’m tired of this.

[Kneeshooter-amanthul (Kneeshooter)]

Hadn’t thought of that. In which case it seems even odder.

[Kennie-malganis]

@Khronys-aerie-peak

Yeah I’m tired of this.

I thought you just said you quit every patch for the past few expansions.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

@Beastlyjim-illidan

I’m no Sherlock. But me thinks this signals a content drought until the next expansion.

They are going to cut and run like they did with WoD aren’t they?

[Khronys-aerie-peak]

What does that have anything to do with my critique of their decisions lol

Always in with the pointless responses I see Kennie.

[Kennie-malganis]

“I’m tired” every week for years is what I was getting at.

Maybe it’s just not the right game.

[Greybrook-sargeras]

Thanks for the update!
Except for the Emerald Dream portion, I’m pretty sure everyone should already be 100% complete with the rest of this list. It was all super easy stuff to do that would have happened naturally to literally anybody playing the game with any regularity over the past twelve months.

[Aswansea-malygos]

@Kaivax

Freshscales Fifteen – Achieve renown fifteen with all major factions on the Dragon Isles: Dragonscale Expedition, Maruuk Centaur, Iskaara Tuskarr, Valdrakken Accord, Loamm Niffen, and Dream Wardens.

Blizz, what the hell are you guys doing over there? Why should we have to grind out rep to level 15 for even the NEW faction. What’s that all about? This whole Pathfinder thing is just a way to drag this whole thing out. Is playing through the new storyline in the new area gonna net someone level 15 of that rep, or are we stuck grinding for rep?

I don’t understand why you guys can’t just give people old flying without ALWAYS jumping through some hoops.

-EDarkness

[Khronys-aerie-peak]

Yeah mate, maybe context matters there. Stay on topic because I have no idea who you are and don’t care for your opinion of my criticisms of the game.