I like Ysera and all, but what is the pretense for us having to hand over Malfurion for her? People have been resurrected before in the WoW universe and it never took some kind of Soul Exchange.
Shadowlands taught me that Death is meaningless and going to the Afterlife is easy, leaving it too (as we had portals to capitals, members of Maldraxxus just leave to spy on the Legion, and the Dreadlords are from there and are a consistent problem in the Universe).
We should have just beat up that tree robot and taken Ysera by force if she was going to pretend she had any bargaining power after handling everything for her in Shadowlands, ungrateful.
To add insult to injury, we brought her back because we thought we needed the “Dreamer” in order to activate some artifact to expel all the Primalist from the Emerald Dream. Turns out Merithra is just the Dreamer now so we didn’t need Ysera at all.
Things Malfurion has done:
Defended the dream for thousands of years with his druids
Stood toe to toe with Archimonde where Malorne failed
Played a crucial role in Archimondes defeat
Played a crucial role in the Night Elven rebellion, defeating the Legion, Mannoroth and Hakkar the Houndmaster.
Aided in the defeat of Ragnaros the Firelord
Defeated Xavius and the Nightmare (originally, we dealt with him later in Legion)
Things Ysera has done:
Sleep (As druids did the job of the Green Dragonflight for them, and they just nonstop got corrupted)
Be extremely passive, leading her Dragonflight to Ruin as more got corrupted and nothing was done about it. For how consistent and prevalent this issue is you would think they would have attempted to find a way to cleanse themselves.
Immediately get corrupted by Xavius
Why would we accept this trade? We lose a major defender and Azeroth and the Strongest Druid on Azeroth. We gain? A half dead dragon who is immediately replaced by her daughter.
I really like the Story of Dragonflight so far, leaps and bounds above the previous two expansions. But of course the one thing that really irks me and makes me scratch my head touches Shadowlands and is thus tainted by the badwriting curse.
If you follow the story, it is because she sacrificed her life to the Nightmare to save him in Legion. Then Ysera’s essence was bound to shadowlands. So for her to come back, a trade was needed.
Does it mean that Malfurion is gone forever? I doubt it.
I’m aware it is temporary. I’m just saying it is not even necessary. Lord Itharius has been doing her job better than her since I met him in Vanilla, and Merithra is the dreamer now. I’d rather keep the hard hitting player than the benchwarmer, if something happens who do you want in your corner?
As the content creator Nixxiom calls him “F*%#ing Malfurion!” the guy who can pretty much do anything, or Ysera?
Also @Sorelai she did not save him in Legion, we did. She was corrupted easily by Xavius, we went into the Darkheart Thicket and got him out then worked with him in the Nightmare. Xavius had him captured entirely and used her as a pack mule to carry him to the Thicket, if Xavius was going to do anything other than taunt him Ysera’s contribution did nothing to change that.
ACTUALLY! With this logic Sorelai it does make sense. Malfurion wasn’t trading for Ysera, he was trading for US!
We were the ones that saved him in Legion, and so he took our place in that God Awful expansion! If that is really how it breaks down then damn he is a hero once again.
But…but she didn’t. Dying in vain is not sacrificing your life for someone. If someone is being kidnapped, and you got hit by the kidnappers car as they got away. You did not sacrifice yourself for anyone, you tried and failed.
The way I read the story is that Xavius meant to use the corrupted Tear of Elune on Malfurion. It was used on Ysera. So Malfurion was able to be saved later.
I guess I’m too cut throat in negotiations then, if everyone is fine with it then I guess we can just leave it at that.
I’m just saying the trade wasn’t even necessary, we could have either one just kept Malfurion and left Ysera, which I view as just fine. Or two just taken Ysera, no trade necessary.
My proposed deal to the Winter Queen:
“We get, the former Dreamer. You get, to not be dismantled like we did your brother, robot.”
It is nowhere implied that was Xavius intention, I think you’re just inferring it, which makes sense as to why you see that as a sacrifice. If he really wanted to corrupt Malfurion he would have taken him to the Nightmare, he was able to Corrupt Cenarius after all. I believe Xavius hatred for Malfurion runs deep, so he wanted to “make him watch.”
An overused villain trope I know, but it is exactly what he was doing, he took him to Darkheart Thicket which is not the nightmare and just bound him there. I think the evidence points to a desire to torture and ridicule, not corrupt.
