I feel attacked. 
But seriously, a masters is considered a professional diploma so, unless they are talking about a MBA or higher, they should probably pull back from that argument.
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But it’s not just QoL. It’s literally P2W. You can use your mount in BGs to buy consumables and use the mailbox to access the items all while in the BG. Seems OP to me
That’s the thing that is being missed. If the cash shop item grants the player any benefit in game. Then it is pay to win. Because it grants the player an easy advantage over those players that don’t purchase it for real world cash. Some people continue to skirt that issue but it’s there. They just don’t want to admit that Bliz’s cash shop is leaning towards the pay to win market.
Some say that the money from the mount can be earned in game by earning gold and trading it for tokens etc. But the reality is people that can afford it will just buy the item with their credit card. Because earning it in game by crafting, working the ah etc takes too long for most. Most Wow players these days don’t want to spend weeks and months grinding if they can avoid it.
The mobile games use the same tactics. The mobile companies know that players are impatient. Can a player play for free. Yes they can but say the player want’s a magic sword that does special damage they can struggle through the game for 6 months until they can get the sword or they can go to the cash shop and buy the sword with their credit card right now. Bliz to a degree has started this cash shop trend in Wow.
But keep in mind that these mobile game tactics in supposed free to play mobile games is one thing. Wow on the other hand is pay to play.
This game should just be free to play at this point. None of us are getting what we are paying for. By the way…WoW is currently LOSING SUBS across each and every single version of the game. Because of this current dev team doing stuff such as adding in the Baby Blizzard Bear back for WoWs 20th anniv. That just shows how lazy the current dev team is. I have been asking for a Sun Bear pet for years now. I have saved screenshot from my live chat from over 10 years ago asking to get that as a pet for an anniversary event and it was a live chat with a GM who suggested posting it to forums back then and to also put in as a suggestion. What is so hard about making a new bear that is black with a golden triangle on its chest? But no. They still refuse to do it.
Because new dev team is lazy. That is why they copy paste spells now and sometimes have even put wrong descriptions in for them because they copy paste if from another place. I did WoWs 4th and got that pet. Not on this toon. This toon was made in original Cata
If anything, we’re getting less and less for what we are paying for as time goes by. The World Soul Saga is an excuse to rush smaller content out in a shorter time frame for just as much if not more of a price-tag.
They were already working on Midnight as of Nov 2023 at least. I’ll be very surprised if it doesn’t release by the end of 2025, or at least go to the PTR.
Yea seems to me as though WoW is currently ran and managed by shareholders who do not play or even like the game.
He lives in a run down falling down house in his own garbage and doesn’t even have proper hygiene per people who have been around him. I don’t care how much money the man claims he worth, a dirt bag is a dirt bag.
Oh yes it can now…you get gold by quests…or selling raw mats …you take gold you buy WoW Token in AH …you click on token either you apply said token too pay for 30 days of you sub or you put it too your Battle Net Balance for what…hold on …$15 dollars on your battle net balance…buy 6 tokens do this and you’ll have what what wait for it …$90 dollars on your balance and you can buy the new Long Boi…boom…same goes for any other mount or battle pet in the cash shop…
NO mount or battle pet or toy makes a player a better player and allowing them to win…now selling boosts in game does…and players pay real money to get gold from wow tokens to pay for runs though Raids and Dungeons they can’t do themselves that is pay to win right there now…but cash shop stuff is not …well one item might be considered pay to win and that is service you pay to boost the level of your character but really…that’s stretch really…
I understand your opinion. But what the Wow tokens and the cash shop do is create a real life money wall. Even when it comes down to cosmetic things. When it comes down to selling a mount that gives the player a slight advantage. Then that is pay to win. And its the start of full pay to win. Think of it this way. Before the shop. Players paid their monthly subscriptions and what ever they achieved/acquired in the game was something that any player could get just through simple game play or in game earned gold. Specifically no involvement of real world cash. Of course. Using real world cash to buy virtual in game items does put a pay wall to players that can’t afford it. As mentioned in other posts. Wales are people who do not have the Patience to get things by playing the game.
They will spend money at the cash shop. They don’t want to wait to level up. So they start a new character, spend $60 us dollars at the cash shop, and bang their character is now max level. Tell me how is that not an advantage? When other players don’t have the money to do the same because they are living paycheck to paycheck.
The Wow token/cash shop is the same as payed dlc under a different guise. In the old days players would of called this type of thing cheating. These days players have become apathetic.
Man, you guys just don’t get it. The more money whales spend in the shop the longer we will go paying the SAME subscription price, blizzard has not adjusted the sub for inflation since 2004-2005, the cash shop and people who use it are the reason the rest of us haven’t had to pay more than 15, why does it bother you guys? It literally benefits all of us, and you guys discouraging people from using the cash shop is the worst thing to do because then blizz will adjust for inflation and they have the right to adjust they wouldn’t even be wrong for it at this point, it’s been 20 years, let the whales keep our costs down by satisfying blizz
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Some players are just too blind to see the forest for the trees.
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Most have the more limited egocentric view.
See I am original owner of the first Long Boi from BfA the 5 million one…when this new one came out I was happy a pig in mud another Long Boi …different looks and bit different set up…1.7 million gold to buy it out with tokens to my bnet balance…but I will still say this now …Blizzard was wrong to remove the first one from the game …dead wrong and they got caught in a lie now too with bring in this new one…they stated back with the removal of the first one they didn’t want to see tons of Long Boi all over the place…they literally posted that too us in the forums back when they were forced to come out about the removal…at least they were up front about this new one being limited…
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That is just an opinion that some people have but it is not a fact. Microsoft is a for profit company. In order to be profitable Blizzard, like all other Microsoft divisions has to keep its revenue higher than it’s costs and subscriptions fit into that revenue stream. For 20 years this business model has brought blizzard plenty of cash revenue. There is no need for a cash shop. Blizzard is worth Billions.
Just shakes my head…some players are just so blind they can’t see the forest for the trees…I own the first Long Boi …and I brought the new one too…I was quite happy they brought out this new one for the player base to get easier then the first one …and still say it was damn wrong of Blizzard to remove the first one and stick on the BMAH…
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You can buy tokens with gold. At about a quarter million a pop, that’s six (seven if you have to pay any sales tax where you’re at) for 1.5 million, give or take. Way cheaper than the original brutosaur.
So, it’s attainable in game. It’s actually cheaper with arguably better functionality than the original.
If you need one, you’re probably a gold farmer anyway, so this shouldn’t be a big deal. If you just want one to park in town, then you may need to start grinding some gold.
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Your conclusion that one instance demonstrates empirical proof is lacking. If you’d like a loan to buy the Brutosaur, I can put you in contact with a good Goblin I know.
i mean its cheaper than the ingame one so…id argue its not
I have seen this argument bandied about. That the new mount is cheaper than the old mount. My opinion is that the old mount should never have been so expensive to start with and the new mount should be way cheaper.
To put it bluntly nothing in the game should be this expensive period.
It is more than obvious that the OP is addressing a trend in Wow.