Torghast is waaaaay, waaaaaay too long

Honestly, I’m glad people are enjoying it! I enjoy some things in the game others don’t, too. So if others are having fun, I’m not in a position to say they’re wrong - I hope they keep having fun. We’re in short supply of that these days /gestures at recent world events.

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There is definitely room for improvement, but I seriously want to see this feature succeed and become a permanent feature in WoW. It has too much potential to be an expansion only feature.

I just think the first month of an expansion is too early to be ripping it to shreds while folks are still gearing.

It could absolutely be more rewarding than it currently is. Not sure what route they want to take it.

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Based on a forum comment from Watcher a couple of months ago, they said that the Halls of the Tormented or whatever would likely become a challenge mode wing, which is Torghast, but with 18 floors in a very hard layer.

At first I thought you were trolling, but you’re serious. How is it taking you so long? Are you bad or do you just like taking in the scenery?

Some folks are wantin’ gear to be rewarded for completing Torghast currently, if this floor is actually more challenging than our current iteration, do you think offering gear would be fair? Then again, folks might settle with dope cosmetics as the reward.

I don’t know what comment you’re referring to so sorry if they went into it more.

So, keep this in mind. I’m a 2400 experienced player who lives off finding cosmetic trophies and going after them. It’s what I do. It’s what I want. Gimme trophies. Gimme KSM mount / title. Gimme AOTC mount / title. Gimme PvP rewards that’re gone in a couple of months. Etc.

That being said, I don’t think Torghast has to offer gear because it already offers the means of crafting what will be the most powerful gear throughout the expansion. It doesn’t need to give more than that, and a part of why is because it’s free. There’s no entrance fee to get into Torghast. There’s no time consumption of actually getting into Torghast.

If you wiped on a horrific vision and didn’t get what you wanted from it, or didn’t complete the necessary requirements, you got nothing, and had to farm another 5 days to get a vessel to try again. That kind of punishment doesn’t exist in Torghast. And there’s no time limit like there was with insanity. The extra mob popping up and all of that was only specific to the previous two layers which were available. People can go afk in the current places without a problem as far as I know, though I’ve only done Coldheart this week.

We already have way more ways of getting gear. Shadina here is 186 equipped with a DMD and full 184’s earned through a variety of content. Torghast not offering gear is fine in my opinion.

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If it’s taking 30 minutes per Floor and you’re not just looking around then you’re being way too cautious and/or the Layer you’re on is too high.

At least if you got some loot it might feel a bit better.

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But for those of us who don’t care about the legendary and would like to have some sense of accomplishment for that place, I don’t see an issue with putting in some cosmetics. Not gear, just some cosmetics.

And I feel there is punishment. Not everyone gets through on the number of lives they’re given. That’s a pretty decent punishment to me.

There are. I’ve already gotten a pet or two from Torghast. One of which is a little purple Mawrat. I have no idea how I got him, but I did. And as I mentioned, later on there will be cosmetics if what Watcher said is true involving a challenge mode wing. But that’s 18 floors of Torghast in one round.

I don’t think that’s punishment. There’s a difference between a failed run, and being punished because you failed. Other than a little bit of time, you don’t lose anything for failing in Torghast. A punishment would mean actively losing something other than your time (and some gold for repair bills and such).

When you failed a vision, it felt punishing because it ate your vessel. You had to actively farm to get another vessel to do another vision that week. There is no farming, nor an entrance fee to get into Torghast.

When you play another rogue-like such as Binding of Isaac, you pick a character and you go in. If you make it to the Chest, or Heaven (think floor 20 or so) and then you die because you accidentally got booped into something like a spike pit, other than the time to get there, you don’t lose out on anything. It’s the same situation in Torghast. I don’t view a failed run as punishment because I can just as easily queue up again and go another round.

You clearly never done visions

What makes you think he is lying? Sounds about right to me. Maybe it just takes some people super long for whatever reason, but it shouldn’t.

I always put it off until Sunday or Monday. Because yeah the first 5 floors are just way too long and I can’t be arsed until then.

I told all of you Choreghast would be a thing.

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Ah. I should have looked that up. Looks like two pets, a toy and a mount at higher levels. Maybe they’ll introduce more.

Yeah, there should be some more things from there, sure. But I think when they bring in more with the Tormented Chambers or whatever, it’ll be good.

You have as much a chance of being a professional fighter as I do as being Kermit the Frog…

It’s only for if you go over a certain number of deaths. Then he goes from the beginning and starts hunting you.

The good news is you’ll only ever have to do all of them once, and then afterwards you’ll only have to do the final floor each week. ezpz.

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the only gripe I have is, that debuff you get when you’re being hunted
meaning you can’t ever AFK except for those floors where its just the vendor and it gives you time to AFK if you need to

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