What’s amusing is that there was a constant, steady drumbeat for a while of people on this forum asking for “challenging solo content”.
Then Torghast came out and the same forum freaked out about how hard it was.
Not sure how much overlap there is between the two groups, most of it is probably two different groups of people. But it would be pretty funny if there were some people who were in both crowds.
Just did Twisting Corridor level 1 for the first time last night. Cleared on first try, although it did take quite some time. As a fire mage, I had NO trouble doing any of it. Even the final boss died in under 15 seconds. With 18 floors, theres no reason not to have a load of great powers to help you out. Max out fireball damage with the Ashen Phylactery power plus decrease cast time with Wand Grease. Also, by the time I was at the 10th floor I had 8 mirror images, all with the upgraded AI. That alone DESTROYS bosses.
People on the forum count for way less than 1% of the WoW population.
They’re also representative of 100% of the WoW population. That’s how sampling works.
I’m legit curious how it’s supposed to be hard? I’ve played through all 8 layers on 5 classes and only had a stumbling block once on a fresh 60. I’m genuinely asking - was Torghast intended to be difficult content?
I have no idea why it’s hard for certain players, all mobs including bosses can be CC’d, snared, and slowed. Either they’re trying to rush through it too much, or choosing powers that just don’t go with anything. Because even Twisting Corridors Layer 8 is equivalent to Torghast prenerf, and should be a cake walk after 18 floors of crazy power upgrades even if you’re item level 200.
It was, and then wasn’t, and then was, and then wasn’t. I think there was one week where they buffed and nerfed Torghast just days apart.
I know you are trying to be smart and edgy, but you are incorrect.
Blizzard doesnt only ‘sample’ form the forums that you and me have access too. They dont even read this crap.
They possibly read reddit and they do have their special secret forums that you have to get an invite too.
I love torghast, and I really enjoy tc. I just need more free time to run it.
In the Soulforges wing, players get a fire damage debuff that constantly ticks a % of health. It is A MUST to purchase a ravenous anima cell and hold on to it. Once you reach the soulforges area, use it to turn one of the mobs into an anima cell( i always use on a flametender but others work ) . That anima cell will give you flamestarved cinders which reduces fire damage by 65% and making that ticking damage manageable.
And you’ll find the same sentiments on Reddit that you do here.
Here we go again. Everyone (and I mean every single example I’ve seen) who can solo higher layers of Torghast and doesn’t have nearly the problem that the rest of us do…is a warrior. I would expect paladins could too, but I haven’t actually heard of any examples. People in my guild, people on these forums, random people in trade chat—the warriors are the only ones not complaining.
Not sure the point of this reply. Thanks?
Generally DK, Paladin, DH , Bear, and Warrior can solo all of Torghast and TC with no issues. If you pick the proper powers.
I had zero troubles soloing Twisting Corridors through all 8 layers.
The key, as I pointed out in another thread, is not your anima powers, but which Torment you got on the first floor.
Here’s a copy/paste for anyone interested.
Its the same type of players that fail mage tower challenges during the last patch of legion
The difficulty curve for Torghast is going to be like anything else in this game.
Hard/Challenging content gets released and some people grind and persevere through it. Some people try it and can barely get through it, but come back with some more gear and finally some people find it to be way too difficult, dub it terrible game design and don’t touch it ever or until they massively outgear it.
Eventually those last two categories of people can get through it at whatever pace works for them. If 200 ilevel gear is what any chunk of content is balanced around that first group will push through it around 185-195 anyways just by blood sweat in tears while others will wait until it feels difficult, but doable at that 200-205 range. Then everyone else will take it seriously when they get to 210 or 215 where it starts to fall over for them, and others still will wait until 220-235 gear becomes the norm and they can go crush it by looking at it.
TC will be no different. It’s definitely content I’d put in the hard category right now (also class/spec dependent), but come next raid tier when the normal ilevel becomes 220 or so and people who were struggling before will be able to get through it.
Most of it is not hard at all. But then you get to the end with bad rng on the powers, and some bosses are much harder than others and also much harder than the rest of the place.
On my 160 item level hunter yesterday, I cruised through it until the last boss. I still won, but there was unavoidable magic damage going out, and if I didn’t get lucky with a few good defensive powers, or if I just didn’t take them because the rest of the place was so easy, I would have been killed. Not bad playing. Just bad rng and a mechanic I couldn’t avoid.
Mage tower was a true challenge. You had to play perfectly to win. But you could do it by learning mechanics and optimizing gear.
Torghast is not a challenge. It is a time sink where you either get good powers and a good boss, or you don’t. If your powers didn’t line up with some bosses, it doesn’t matter how well you play. The numbers are against you. Sometimes you even get a minute and a half of immunity right at the last boss. That’s not skill.
I personally enjoy it. But I can see clearly why people struggle and also dislike it.
Lolwut? I found shadow to be miles easier than disc/holy. We’ve got some pretty amazing powers…some stand out on top, but Ive never failed a run no matter what powers they throw at me
Some powers seem designed with groups in mind. For example, I don’t want any powers that are going to hit mobs that I am not hitting.