Nope. Doing the secondary objectives is AV is fun. I’ll stick with that. If you have to be a metaslave for honor-per-hour, that’s your problem.
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The good news is, now that the player base capable of ranking is significantly larger, turtle simpletons are even less popular than they were in SOM.
I’d say the opposite is true. There’s way more AVs in general and plenty of good games, despite the metaslaves.
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I grinded out 200k honor last week and 60k yesterday. Only had to afk out of a total of 4 AV’s so far. That is a much much lower % than it was previous to the pvp patch. And 3 of those 4 were the Horde Group forcing turtles.
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queue for pvp content
afk out of pvp content when forced to fight other players
Scorched earth AV is worth significantly more honor than a 6 minute base trade. Its also more actual PvP, you have to actually fight other players instead of a fistful of AI scripts and a pair of tower timers.
People that whine and cry about their HPH and AFK out of horde turtles are why Alliance never breaks Horde turtles.
I had a 30 min wait for a wsg last night. Can’t even really rank in wsg even if your winning fast games if you have to wait 30 mins for a game
I think the reason ppl don’t queue for wsg is that if you get a long game ur hph goes way down
You can still make it happen. Just have to Wpvp in between queues.
But you’re afking out of AVs that have actual pvp happening rather than just being a boss rush?
Something tells me your only definition of what “pvp” is is when you’re winning fast while solo queueing
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No I was making that honor while fighting other premades and 5 mans.
If you farm pugs for 8/10 of the days time, you can afford to play a 20-30 minute game a few times a day vs a premade for fun and not sacrifice your hph
The whole point for me is to actually run into these premades for good games
I’ve never been the type to worry about hph. I have my fun and the hph comes with it. Good hph too. If you’re the type to obsess over hph, you aren’t having fun. That’s a chore and makes long days even longer
I haven’t qd this week yet, so I can’t speak for the last 2 days.
The av meta gets progressively worse with each passing week as more and more nubs get exalted and never q again.
There are no more reinforcement counts in AV. Any turtle game and your hph is in the toilet
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Appreciate everyone interacting with the thread!
The two things I think would make the era pvp community much stronger would be to increase the honor granted in WSG and AB, and to leave AV as is. Personally, I’m done ranking and gearing. I’m just playing for the love of the game.
The warsong queues are too long, and the AB queue pops are almost non-existent! It’s really a shame. Something easy and relatively non-invasive can be done to make all the BGs relevant.
Also, theoretically all the AFKers should be getting the temp-ban hammer for sabotage and non-participation. It’s weird to design a meta that allows people to AFK to 14!
Love,
The business mage
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no the people who WAnT To Pvp BeCauSe PVp is FuN are queueing plenty of AV and losing the games because they ignore the objective everybody is going for and turtle it
Maybe because “the objective everyone is going for” is to turn the map into a 100% pve boss rush while avoiding all pvp.
Which is why AV sucks, its either not even pvp, or its a slow zergfest slog
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I took this druid I’m leveling into AV because I saw the chart and I’m like “That looks easy to get the R11 mount, why not?”. Even though I plan to level to 60 for future weeks.
Seeing the horde players in there who were like “This is a BG - we PVP” when people were like “No, we need to rush!!” was really nice. We won those games too, because the ally were held back. It doesn’t always have to be about the HPH. I do still prefer the other BGs, but seeing actual defense, backcapping, and fighting in AV is great.
Yeah, so play something else. When 95% of the players are in the game going for an objective and the other 5% work against that objective, it’s anti social. You can get all the pvp you want in wsg or ab.
agreed. AV isn’t really pvp. wsg and ab should be the best honor.
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AV is the best when people actually do objectives, sadly you only get a rare turtle match every now and then. The straight to boss matches are beyond lame.
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In 2023, players of any video game will identify and abuse the meta. People want the path of least resistance. It’s just the way it is.
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No, they just want efficiency. People go out of their way to play hard games. AV isn’t a hard game.
Efficiency differs
You can cap 500k on warsong or AB weekend in 18-20 hours. That’s two 9-10 hour sessions Friday Saturday or one full day in a single sitting and not even log on the rest of the week.
You’ll still see people in av playing 5 days tho during ab week