Today Apple introduced new Macs - will WoW still run?

I suspect Mac haters (and haters in general) are mostly young teens, so I try to be polite to them.

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Yes, but I don’t use Steam because I don’t trust their vetting process for my own safety. I just googled it. They don’t even have a vetting process, although they will block software that breaks the law (wow, how caring of Valve.) There’s one game on their store where you kill sick people to stop the spread of a disease. I won’t mention the disease but you all know it.

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-games-industry-reacts-to-valves-divisive-steam-store-curation-policy/

Your suspicions would be wrong. I detest MACs because they are overpriced, underperforming, unreliable, gimmick-laden pieces of hardware. When I compare my wife’s iphone to my galaxy, the usability differences are almost staggering - the MAC is awkward, clumsy, and obviously designed with a very specific audience in mind.

When it comes to computers, the gulf is even wider - all of the above criticisms apply, with the added ‘features’ of MAC hardward being difficult (and often impossible) to upgrade, severely lacking in peripherals, and poorly optimized for gaming of almost all kinds. MACs have been trash since I was in grade school - they were an exercise in frustration back when I was in undergrad in the early 2000s, and since that time they have only fallen further behind the power curve.

So, yes, there is a reason that people don’t like your Jobs-box. But you go ahead and continue to write all of that off as teenage angst.

Oh good lord.

A) The community performs all necessary vetting via reviews - most of which result in an extremely accurate and fair evaluation of the software offered.

B) Nobody should require a ‘big brother’ telling them what they can and cannot purchase. Do 5 minutes of research and you’ll know everything you need to about a given piece of software, its development team, any preceding games, etc.

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You might not need a big brother, but not everyone is as smart as you. I have lots of friends and family that need help. I care about those people. You can take care of yourself. You are not a typical computer user. Most people that I know actually want curated software. And it’s not just because some software is offensive, but also because some software is unsafe. I can’t understand why so many people want to stop other people from living in a safe, curated world. I presume you want to make curated operating systems, including the iOS App Store, illegal.

How is that a flaw? I agree with you - it’s designed for people who need help with usability and security issues. You don’t need those things. I can tell you are a smart guy, but you should also learn to be caring for people who do want and need those things. You should stop hating people who need help. It’s like hating handicapped people. Stop it.

Unless you’re someone like filmmaker Robert Rodriguez, you won’t need a top of the line Mac Pro.

And if you are a guy like Rodriguez, $55k is a very reasonable investment.

Yes. The Mac Pro is made for a certain audience. And for them it’s a good buy. So is the Mac Mini. No single computer product is good or best for everyone. There are dozens of competitors to Apple and if I wanted to be mean and nasty I could criticize any and all of them for a variety of reasons (cost may not be one of those reasons.) But I generally don’t spend energy trashing anyone, unlike the Apple-trashers that always come out of the woodwork. The moment I say the word “Apple” you always get a few people whose heart rate doubles as they start to spew hatred like I’m some race-hating extremist.

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I love Macs. I’ve always played WoW on a Mac. I currently play WoW on my 27” iMac. Plays beautifully. Graphics are gorgeous. Never had a problem.

I worked for over a decade in IT from senior level game software tech support to QA Software Test Engineer for several different companies, and Mac has always been the superior system in every instance.

I’ve never understood the Mac hate. It’s like they’re threatened in some way. Reminds me of the American football fans who hate soccer as if it’s a competition between the two. That’s silly, since fĂștbol is literally the most popular sport on the planet.

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The Macbook Air is the one that don’t use Intel now. It’s basically an ios device with a keyboard now.

By the way, the word soccer was invented at Oxford in the UK.

I don’t bother trying to convince people that “Macs are better”. It’s not worth the effort.

And I’ve used a 27 inch 5K monitor to play Wow too, for about 6 or 7 years now. It’s great, but the textures used by WoW are stretched to fit the screen so I’m not really getting a real 5K experience. “Warcraft Reforged” does have real 5K textures, but the game had such horrid reviews I decided not to get it.

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To run games at the highest possible framerate at 4k or higher resolutions.

I hope you don’t mind being corrected, but Apple updated three computers yesterday: the MacBook Air, the MacBook Pro, and the Mac Mini. All three come with the choice of Intel or Apple CPUs. Despite what you said, all of them still come with Intel CPUs if you want to buy them that way.

And all three of these run MacOS, not iOS. They can run MacOS applications which CANNOT run on iOS, so it’s more than just an iOS device with a keyboard. If you were right, it wouldn’t be able to run World of Warcraft, but I assure you it can, because it’s not an iOS device.

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I just configured the most expensive dual nvidia 3090 PC with 128Gb of ram, and the total was just over $24000. No mouse and keyboard btw.

Maxing the Mac Pro, but going with 96Gb of ram and a 256gb ssd came to 24,799.00

Because I was limited in socket type by going with the most expensive motherboard the pc config only has a 10 core CPU vs the Mac Pro’s 28 core xeon. If I’d configured the PC with the 28 core Intel 8180 it would have cost more, BUT it DOES have the dual 3090s.

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I trust your numbers. But since very few people care about top performance for a game like WoW, it’s not important to many people. I’m sure my $699 Mac Mini will run WoW just as good as I need it to. I’m not even going to check its frame rate because I don’t care.

If its a proprietary chip it might just mean a delay in being playable as they figure it out, but they will make it work eventually.

Yes, I agree, it can work, if Blizzard wants to do that. The problem is we don’t know if Blizzard wants to do that because they have been 100% silent.

Have to say, I am interested in how well the new macs handle x86 code and whether there is much of a performance hit.

Honestly I don’t either. I don’t use one but I’ve always been an advocate of some kind of options available - the world would be in a worse odd place if our only options were Windows and Linux platforms.

Very excited for what’s to come.

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Most likely