To those who think HC deaths should be transfered to pve only

Ive heard a tired argument that HC characters should only be allowed to tranfer to PVE era servers on death be cause “pvp integrity”. “It’s unethical to let pve characters transfer to pvp server because they leveled without the chalenge of pvp.”

Do you understand that MANY pvp classic servers have been 1 faction since before TBC? and many of those copied characters were able to paid transfer to any server of their choosing despite having essentially 0 world pvp happen the whole time they were lvling.

When i was lvling my paladin in tbc prepatch on sulfuras i seen maybe a handful of alliance and they were all so tired of being ganked and outnumbered that they wanted no part in pvp and i left them alone.

By this logic all characters who were copied from 100% faction pop realms should be force transferred to pve realms immediately lol.

Alot of these characters that were coppied at TBC were perma-leveled in SM/maradon and was, despite the occasional bloodbath at the entrance, mostly pvp free in contrast to lvling normally. Should these characters also be forced into pve realms?

This rule of not allowing ppl to transfer pve-pvp is dumb. The fact is that AFTER YOU TRANSFER YOU MUST NOW COMMIT TO ENGAGING IN WORLD PVP! Even when doing simple things like getting to a dungeon or getting buffs. And if you’ve ever played wow you’ll understand that you spend MUCH more time AT lvl 60 than when you’re lvling.

This rule is bad currently regardless of the hardcore context and id like to see it just removed. Id imagine most of the people who would use this would not be people abusing the system but people who want to transfer their characters that are permalocked to DEAD pve servers and bring them into the more healthy populated pvp ones.

And i understand people could abuse this for farming items then xfering them to a pvp server but they could only do this once and its not like all the popluated era realms dont have trashed economies already.

And from a Hardcore-only context you can add a mechanic to delete all their items as a punishment for transfering to a pvp realm (or at least the super high-contested items like lotus and arcane crystals/arcanite bars). I feel like this is an acceptable tradeoff as you can continue a character on a pvp-focused realm but you’re handicapped by losing the item progression you gained in HC. You’re at a SEVERE disadvantage in pvp as you lost all your stuff and now have to interact with the world vs those who started off lvling on PVP realms.

Maybe give a bag with a combination of white and green items so character isnt completely nude and maybe give them a “born again” optional cosmetic buff/debuff.

You are level 80, back to retail for ya!

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Tl;dr.

And, no.

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Hardcore transfers should send you to a Demon Souls like realm where everyone has to play at 75% health soulless fallen.

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Was this announced somewhere that I didn’t see or do we still not know for sure about the transfers?

There was a whole guild who just leveled on the server cluster this toon I post with is on, which has like 45 people on both sides online on the whole server, who then free transferred to Whitemane. So that’s not really different. Actually leveling on hardcore is a lot more challenging.

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So, Shadowlands?

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we know nothing about the transfers. logically it makes sense it should only be PvE but who knows, blizzard might not care and let you go to PvP :expressionless:

I’m surprised they haven’t announced the server names even. Usually, they do stuff like that and then leave for the weekend.

Ha.
They aren’t doing name reservations in advance either.

Also opie should have watched the vid of the community council roundtable with the devs. They specifically stated the hc servers will be PVE or “normal”. IMO transfers off hc servers should be to other PVE servers only.

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Like Kratos in God of War if you die you can fight your way out of the Maw and live again

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Don’t they already allow PvE to PvP transfers on Era? I know they allowed this from SoM to Era.

What about HC makes it harder?

It can definitely be an uphill battle to not die, but other than that, there’s nothing.

It’s not like mobs have buffs to make the overall experience harder in general.

The same way you die on HC is the same way you die on a PvE server.

u can currently transfer from pve to pvp on era after hc death the best way would be to be able to transfer to any realm i hope this is the case

I did not know that. Good to know,ty.

As it goes for HC. Ive always liked the concept. I do not like the fact that if you D/C and die, it still counts. That can be bad for many people. But other than that it should be cool. I think all those hating on it are going to give it a try anyways just because it is something knew.

Also. If you do HC and it is on a PvE server then you stay PvE, HC PvP stays PvP.

If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

HC is only PvE.

Oh. I wanted HC PvP. Dang. But it is what it is. I want to do HC then move it to a PvP server if I succeed.

Why does this thread exist?

You are still allowed to flag. Get it on!

What is the meaning of life …

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