As a HEALER, that has worked to steadily progress Mythic+ content, earned a certain raider IO score, and know what a certain score reflects, TRUST ME, that I actively avoid your groups until I find a group leader with a raider IO score that properly reflects the group content you are trying to do.
I can only imagine other healers and tanks are doing the same, so continue to sit there waiting for the one that is ignorant you are posting for something higher than a +10 while your raider IO score is around 200!
In short, people use raider IO to choose people, but some people also use it to select what groups they join.
So if you have a bad score, you can’t get a group because bad score, and now Yranda says you can’t run your own key. That you got, somehow, with your bad score.
No, I agree with the OP and do the same thing. If you have a bad score raise it by doing keys of your score range. If you think you are better then your score and try to do something way higher, do it with friends first.
Derp.
Not really, people don’t want someone with a lack of experience to join their group.
Well, I don’t want to join a group that is clearly punching above their weight.
I seek out the level that reflects my own raider IO score, rather than seeking someone that is 3 or 4 levels above it. I’ve progressed by first timing all of them at one level, then all of them at the next level, and so on. Then you see someone who has only timed something above 5 once, have a raider IO score of 300, and then are forming a group for a +10. Nope, not joining that, I know how it’s probably gonna go, and when I have given in and joined, my expectations were met.
If they got a high key they at least had to be successful at not bringing the group down.
It’s not ideal but more likely than not it’s an alt with weak gear but understands how to get it done.
Or an alt that just hasn’t filled out their IO with all the dungeons yet. The way you keep getting the same couple of keys every week it might take a while if you’re just running your own keys.
Really… Run your own groups is the most common answer to people that complain about not getting let into groups. Putting them in a catch-22 isn’t a good reply.
This makes perfect sense–especially as a DPS I’m not used to thinking of it from a healers perspective. The other day I applied to two medium-high keys and one leader had a much lower score then the other. In the lower levels it doesn’t really matter, but I remember almost feeling relieved when that group didn’t end up inviting me after all.
The other one didn’t either, but that’s beside the point xD
I had been in a run that took a very long time to complete of the same level earlier in the week, and I couldn’t help considering whether that group would weather the challenge and compare it to that run, even though most of those don’t take near as long for other groups.
Who cares what you or the OP think. If someone has a key and they would like to open it up for invites thats their business. If you don’t want to come no one cares.
I have a 14 key this week but with my 700 score and as feral theres no planet where I am going to get an invite from a stranger for the same level key. Should I get my io up 20 pts at a time by slowly running every dungeon before I post my own key just so I get a few extra divas to apply when I post it? Seems like a waste of time, when I could just post the key and the divas will filter themselves out.
It is a waste of time, and you should post it and run with whoever you want. People like to feel special in this game, like they are far better than they actually are. Good players are more often than not, not found whining on the forums.
I have been in plenty of keys which raider IO score had absolutely 0 correlation to skill level. I have been in raids where 215 ilvl + players have been absolutely garbage.
Take these things with a grain of salt and decide for yourself who you run with or just run it with your guild buddies who know how you play better than the puggers.
Yes, yes you should! This is EXACTLY what I’ve been doing, and continue to do. Back when I was doing a +2, I was invited to do a +8 - as a healer, while still not knowing the mechanics of the dungeon, the affixes involved, and rocking a low item level.
I said “no, not ready for that level yet, not gonna do it”
I think that’s honestly a better attitude to have rather than just going yolo and basically ruining the time of other people.
I mean to get a 14 key I had to finish a 15 and my ilvl is fine. Am I ruining other people’s time by not having a good score? Where does that end, should I also go boomkin? Maybe I should be a VDH just to be safe and not run my 14 key until it has 1200 rating.
This is real serious business, after all! You need to make sure that you have the meta comp and everyone you invite has at least 1600 IO, 99 parses or better, and a FICO credit score of 750 or more!
(Just kidding it’s a video game and you should do whatever you want with your key)
But beware, this level 35 priest won’t want to run with you!!
But, your 14 key is one of many 14 keys, and when people know they have a good chance at an invite, because they have a good score and a good item level, they have earned the right to be selective. So, because I know at certain levels my chance of an invite is almost certain, I decide to be selective because I’m just too amazed by the lack of knowledge I sometimes observe.
says the healer, whose bar to be invited into better and better groups was way lower than everyone else’s your entire climb. you aren’t forced to run your own keys the way other specs are.
or just run it with your guild buddies who know how you play better than the puggers.