It just seems like they “try” to make PvP “fair”, but there always seem to be something new about how “unfair” PvP is:
Yes, I get it. You don’t like to form your Group, for a BG.
Or the system could just stop matching pugs against premades 
You’re right its not fair, and neither is life. I had to work hard for everything I ever got in my life, nothing was handed to me.
When I see whats working I adapt and do what I need to do to survive. Classic is a perfect representation of that in many ways. Classes counter and get countered. There’s pros and cons and everything isn’t homogenized.
I don’t play bfa for a reason. I knew what to expect coming into classic and I’m having a blast
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Maybe you’re right. I honestly don’t know. But folks seem to be PvPing really hard this time around. Or maybe since raiding is relatively easy for a lot of people they’re switching to PvP and creating more premades relative to the number of pvpers.
Wat? I queue up for BGs all the time because they are fun. But I have realistic expectations.
I never said you were doing it for the rewards, but you saw I typed the word and flipped out. The game rewards people who put more time into it by giving them advantages.
One of us is projecting, and I’m not sure it’s me.
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And the queuing system can’t do anything about those.
It can however easily see group size and use that as part of it’s matching criteria. Keep in mind premades get to avoid all those issues just by premading which is partly why they have such a huge advantage.
and thats why we are lobbying for a change. To make it more fair. You just admitted by proxy that it is unfair, and you want to keep it unfair. Gotcha.
You’re the one who cant stop talking about rewards when my only comment to you was essentially that there’s more to it than just rewards
Imo they should just get rid of all PvP gear
Easiest fix to this dumpster fire
Ya, because I’m casual, and just want to que up. I don’t have a ton of time to jump through all the sweaty hoop processes.
Quote me saying I want to keep it unfair. I said pvp is what it is nowadays and if you want to succeed theres a way to. Put in the time just like I had to do because solo queing wasn’t working for me
nah, go play retail.
Dude, you can be rewarded with things other than pixels. Even if you removed every pixel you could earn from BGs, people will still premade…they will still flask and pop consumables.
So you would be for change if we can achieve it then right? To try to fix the problem? If solo queing would be able to work for you would you like it?
orrrr… just make it so premades have to go against premades and pugs have to go against pugs
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for some odd reason they cannot have that, its almost like they love to feed on sheep.
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yup. They want an unfair advantage, not “teamwork” or “communication”.
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I’ve said in previous threads that I would welcome the change as long as there’s cutoffs for what qualifies as a premade. Sometimes I just que with my brother. But that presents a problem. Is a premade full 10 or 15? Is any group considered a premade? How do they fill the gaps then?
Classic is a social game so losing the ability to que with a couple friends would suck because now all of a sudden 2 people is considered a group. I just work with whats in place because thats the way classic is.
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Naw, we just want Vanilla…or as close to it as possible. Feel free to find some friends and queue up yourself though.
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This is true.
Like I said, in a similar thread, that’s mainly why they do it.
Look, I’m a Casual, too. You don’t need to form a Group, if you’re in a Guild. Reasons why I hardly PuG Dungeons, too. Which is why I’m in favor for Server tied BGs, so Guilds can PvP with each other. And, help Server Communities. You are playing an MMORPG, afterall.
If you refuse to play with people to beat other players who are playing in groups, you deserve to get farmed in a GY. Thanks for the honor.