What economic advantage?
You can’t farm mythics for epics / enchanting.
You can’t farm profession knowledge.
Getting a head start on gathering profession itself is even an iffy economic advantage - as it would drive down the cost of leveling other professions when it officially goes live.
(Very possible that won’t actual lead to an economic advantage)
I am poor, let’s just get that out of the way from the start. I am poor, buying the regular level of the game was a stretch for me, something I put off until a few weeks ago. I am resentful towards Blizzard for offering early access, I am not resentful towards anyone buying it. I saw others get a head start on me for the professions when DF launched, and I now know it will happen again for TWW - at least I can be emotionally prepared this time. It is inevitable that my economic status is going to disadvantage me, I just did not expect that it would be here in the game that I love. I am the GM in my guild, it bothers me that I will have guild members I cannot help because I will not have the game. But I do not feel any resentment towards the players who will be getting a head start on me. Unless they start to lord it over me, of course…
Speaking as someone who doesn’t have Early Access and doesn’t want it, I’m glad it exists.
People who pay for it get early access like they wanted.
And I get an unpaid horde of bug testers to find all the broken stuff and complain until it’s hotfixed before I play, so my leveling experience is less frustrating.
Seems fair to me.
Pretty sure weeklies won’t go live until after reset.
Shouldn’t be behind at all with regards to professions.
Paid early access is (almost always) a form of pay to win, it gives an advantage to people that pay more money by letting them get more done before others even have access.
Unless the devs put in the effort to lockout any time limited content until something along the lines of the reset after launch so that the only thing early access is letting people do is spread out the day one load on the servers.
I will def miss the “we are all in this together” experience, I loved it when we all went through launches together.
I believe this is the plan.
Mythic+ doesn’t start for two weeks - including mythic zeroes.
Weeklies don’t start until reset after launch.
Which would (afaik) only leave world quests if the possible extras allow people to reach higher rep to unlock something that gives power.
I don’t really care much about early access, I don’t have a horse in the race for raids or m+ or pvp but if there is an advantage and no push-back that’s just going to embolden them to put more pay to win stuff in the future.
Pretty sure those don’t start until after reset as well.
Not 100% about that - but I think the only end game content that is available with early access is three delves.
I think even heroics may be turned off until launch.
icy veins has a full list
So all the people who bought the Epic edition only did so for the early access? I didn’t, the mount was my main desire.
Prolly just be 3 days of Early Maintenance anyhow.
Hate to break it to you; But whatever experience the early access peeps get will be the exact same experience the rest of the playerbase gets. There is zero chance blizz performs any bug fixes within a 3 day time span.
From icy veins:
List of unavailable items during early access.
Weekly Quests and World Events– These are expected to unlock after the first reset on August 27 (NA) and August 28 (EU).
World Events – World Events will most likely be available after the first reset. The War Within adds new events like Theater Troupe at the Isle of Dorn, Spreading the Light event in Hallowfall, Radiant Echoes, and more.
World Quests – We anticipate world quests to be available after the first weekly reset.
Season 1 Content – World bosses, the new raid, Heroic and Mythic Dungeons will be unavailable in Early Access.
Yea, I actually made this post right after reading one comment where this guy, all I remember was in a sea of comments discussing the patch changes (I think?) where he was very adamant that he wanted EA to fail hard. He then went on to say that it would make him literally lol to see that. I think I replied to him too and basically asked him why he wished ill on people for enjoying the game and using their EA that comes with the epic edition. You might find it if you go through my replies as one example of that kinda stuff.
Right after that, I think is where I saw the people calling him poor. Or maybe it was another post. It has happened a couple times but I read on here more often these days since I’m not on social media as much. Trade one vice for another I guess lol.
I just thought to myself - jeez, I want to just ask people their thoughts on this because I am genuinely just curious about these perspectives. People are really riled up but it looks like most responses here are sane and respectful. Which for me is a breath of fresh air. I think it’s good to bring these things up because it gives normal people a chance to just… chat about it and share their opinions instead of fighting with one another with meaningless insults.
That was me too, I initially just wanted to have a non-dragon dynamic flying mount early hehe.
Getting renown done early will help a lot.
Also, early access is just a marketing gimmick. The game launches on the 22nd. Games are more expensive now because of inflation. It then goes on sale on the 26th.
Sure - but renown is capped via time gating / weeklies.
Which don’t actually go live until after launch.
Looks like there is a lot of content that is cut out until launch day.
The info is posted a few comments above. After seeing that, do you feel like it is still PTW? Or do you find that the restrictions are sufficient enough to be fair to the rest of the player base?
I’m not familiar enough with war within mechanics to comment, but is renown itself capped per week? If not, then having a few extra days is beneficial.
Renown is capped by the activities that grant it.
Which will be limited to zone quests.
Aka - there will be no difference between someone who completed all renown zone quests starting at launch prior to first reset - and someone starting at early access.
TLDR: there is no activity that allows endless farming renown - so it is effectively capped per week.
OP, it’s 100% on blizz. They just want the $$. But they shouldn’t divide players this way.