To all you no damage healers, dealing damage is a form of healing

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And a battle res and normal res are also forms of healing. And to that effect using a defensive spell, potion, healthstone or kiting, those are also forms of damage.

Say an enemy has a big nasty spell that does a ton of AOE damage which cannot be CC’d or interrupted, if there is not much damage going out prior to this AOE than the healer has nothing to do, right? They sit around waiting for the AOE to go off and then be an Avenger and heal the damage.

But why not be a Prevenger and help kill the enemy before the damage goes off and forces you to do some healing? Would you rather just sit around like a tree trunk and be a reactive healer? Or is it better to help kill the enemy before they have a chance to try and kill your group?

What about interrupting? Do you no damage healers also refuse to interrupt, stun, CC or generally try and stop enemies from damaging your group to begin with? Isn’t it better if you can stop an enemy from damaging your group in the first place rather than need to pop off 6 flash heals to top up the group.

Killing an enemy before they put out damage is effective HPS because you are stopping the need to even do the healing to begin with.

Letting a DPS die who has 4 stacks of grievous or some nasty dots and is low health is in the same vein, by letting the DPS die you can focus on keeping the tank alive, which means the rest of the group won’t get whacked, thus meaning they can be given the best chance to kill the enemies and stop a total wipe and a bigger waste of time.

Yes, letting someone die is an effective healing strategy.

And at the same time for you DPS and tanks, pulling more, only using DPS spells because ‘mAh DaMaGe’ can generally mean less damage is actually being done and therefore more healing is needed, higher chance of wiping, higher chance of wasting time.

If you, all of you, healers included, can interrupt and enemy, CC someone, pop a defensive, take 0.3 seconds to move 2 foot right and help each other stay alive and kill the enemy before they kill you, it’s ALL a form of healing and DPS. Because if your group gets hit by something that kills players when the healer could have put a 2K DPS and killed them first, or the DPS could have used a potion or a defensive to stay alive, then you are all to blame for wiping and wasting more time than is needed.

Taking 2 seconds to stop casting your chaos bolt to move from the frontal or AOE to stay alive is far better to have lost your cast and 2 seconds than it is to get hit and die and lose 10, 20, 30 seconds while you get a resurrection or run back and effectively waste everyone’s time.

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Was there some streamer somewhere whining about healers? Why is this suddenly the new trendy topic?

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this is my thread there are many like it but this one is mine.

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I’m not putting a damaging spell on my bars and there’s nothing you can do about it.

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I get what you’re saying, I think, but personally I don’t consider doing damage to be a form of healing. I consider it just not being a basic bot, or not being an intentionally bad player.

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I mean we can just kick you out and never invite you again, that works fine for me.

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I hope writing that wall of text makes you feel better about the mean healers not dpsing.

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OP is just mad Monk tanks are bottom of the barrel right now and trying to blame healers for it.

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Thats fine, I’ll be in another group 30 seconds later and you’ll spend 15 minute looking for a new healer.

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Boy howdy those sure are a lot of words

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Think of it this way, enemy is casting a spell that can be interrupted, or they can be CC’d, it’s a big ol’ nasty spell that is going to deal 200K damage to your tank, your tank currently has 50K health left and you need to use 2 direct heals to give your tank enough health to survive, but you have no time.

So what do you do? Hope someone in the group pops an interrupt or CC’s the enemy? What if instead of popping 2 flash heals you use your own CC or interrupt and stop the enemy from killing your tank to begin with? Congrats you have just now prevented 200K worth of damage and by preventing this damage you have done your role and kept your tank alive by not healing.

It’s not and I couldn’t care about streamers, but people who yell “I’m a no damage healer” fail to realise that doing damage, popping some CC, interrupting, using other spells in your kit, those can all contribute to less healing needed and therefore making your job easier.

Sure healers shouldn’t be doing DPS levels of damage, number 1 is to keep everyone alive, but yes that includes using spells other than healing.

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People who yell “I’m a no damage healer” are just people who are proclaiming to the world that they are intentionally bad (sorry, not sorry)

I get what you mean-- healing is done if the enemy is dead. I do think that if people want to be a team player, proficient, effective, successful, etc. that they should use every tool in their kit.

I just genuinely hope that those players who are adamant about their passive playstyle have friends that are fine carrying them through whatever content they endeavor to do. I would take a chance on a stranger PUG before I picked a healer I know is going to do the bare minimum, or less.

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Im almost entirely convinced this is just a forum dweller thing. Almost every run I do has a healer putting out at least some modicum of damage. No damage healers are rare fortunately.

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Someone began spamming the forums again with this topic. Some panda priest. There was that and a couple of other threads which spun off of it because people are losing their minds about other people thinking they shouldn’t be sitting there doing nothing.

You know, normal forum roulette. Someone spun the wheel.

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There’s been like 5 topics about it in just a couple days. :rofl:

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kinda odd how polarizing this topic always is. just be normal and try to actually play the game instead of watching The Mandalorian on another monitor for half the dungeon. There is not enough damage going out in these dungeons unless your party is consistently failing every mechanic.

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Yes and no, sure the proper 0K DPS healers are not as prevalent as people here make them out to be, unless of course said healer comes here to proclaim " I DO NO DAMAGE AND HAVE TIMED AN M9, i’msogood".

But people do tend to forget, healing, damage, tanking, it’s not all about trying to to the HPS or DPS meters, or being that tank who can withstand a lot of damage, but forgot to take an interrupt because “It’s not a defensive spell”, players need to realise there is more to this game than what your DPS meter says.

Like how I tank as a monk, my purifying brew that purifies half my stagger bar, that doesn’t even show on DPS meters or logs. Someone interrupting or using CC to stop damage also isn’t going to show, there is so so much more than what your DPS meter is telling you.

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Stop telling others how to play the game.

If you want to dps while you heal, fine. But it’s not the only way to play.

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How about your trolls give it a rest?
I’m muting you guys but you’re popping up faster than pimples on a nerds behind

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i heal; i don’t keel. you ain’t mah daddy!

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