No - it’s luck/rng. nothing was taken from the mythic raider. The normal raider just received a bonus.
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Titanforging should exist on max-item-level gear only. 340 gear titanforging is dumb. But 385 base gear should be able to titanforge.
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It completely invalidates his effort.
A bonus he DID NOT DESERVE, do you not get my point? There is no justification for the Normal raider to get such gear. Geez!
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How many times more than what you are playing now should you be willing to pay for a game from which you personally have driven away all the casuals who are paying the bills to develop your vanity content?
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wat?
I raid mythic. Currently 5/8M in one guild and 2/8M in another. I don’t feel invalidated at all. The guy could have just as easily gotten a weapon from his weekly cache.
Either way- I’m minding my own business.
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It’s impossible to reason with you. There is simply not point in continuing this
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When your reasoning is lacking and your logic is flawed - that seems like an acceptable choice.
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Oh I get it now lol.
My point is that everyone should get stuff they deserve. No one should get better or worse things than what they worked for.
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You tell me. You want casuals to receive no rewards from playing, while you want to continue to have your content supported financially and get your own participation trophies.
If there’s only 10% of the players left to pay, because you deincentivized all their content and made it worthless, are you willing to pay 10 times as much?
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I could say the same to you, you are literally ignoring all I am saying and closing yourself into the ‘‘It doesn’t matter to me’’ or ‘‘it’s just luck’’.
But anyways.
Do not twist my words, I said everyone should get what they deserve.
Now you are simply stretching this a bit too much
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Titanforging isn’t rewarding.
Undermines the base reward structure.
An ilvl 355 item coming out of a random Heroic Dungeon should not be a thing. It should not be possible. But it is and does happen.
We already have RNG gem slots.
That should, by itself, cover the idea of “I still have a chance to find upgrades even in content that doesn’t drop base items that are an upgrade for me”
Why allow for +15 or greater McForges?
What purpose does a +15 serve that a simple +5 or +10 wouldn’t equally fulfill?
While I desire the removal of RNG McForging, at this point the experience has annoyed me enough that I would be happy and just settle for a reasonable cap on it. Like was once the case in the past.
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We just have to realize that this is where the game is heading. Everyone can say they hate it and their quitting all they want. But unless it actually happens and the numbers tell that story…it will keep going down this road.
Exactly! The more reason for us to prove how bad it is, quitting and just saying that you hate it is not gonna take this anywhere. People have written why it’s bad and explained it.
Also this is one of the reasons why Raider IO has gained even more popularity, you can’t trust ilvls now, but the thing is this contributes to more toxicity within the game.
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I was quoting you. Your exact words, “The game shouldn’t reward casuals.”
Not rewarding casuals means they will leave the game.
You said it but you didn’t mean it to be taken literally? It was just a propaganda device to you? Umm…
And it’s a fact that raid content is expensive. The fact that everyone pays the same to play the game means that people who do not raid are subsidizing the development of content for those who do.
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God I hate the kind of people that make a big deal of everything.
Under the context of the thread I was obviously talking about Titanforged when I wrote ‘‘reward’’
Yeah but as said above and many times, you shouldn’t give people stuff that they do not deserve. Sure you pay to play the game, but then what is the point of putting effort into getting good gear if some goofy mechanic is gonna throw that away?
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The poor dead horse.
"Ion: TF is here to stay"
They confirmed it’s not going anywhere sir, dead meme thread.
/next
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When what they worked for is completely based on RNG, I don’t think you should have a say in how good their stuff should be.
I am sorry, the loot drops you get in Mythic Uldir are 385, whereas Heroic is 377. I am pretty sure that TO HAVE THE CHANCE to earn that loot takes a lot of work.
So no, they work is not completely RNG-based.
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