Hi everyone,
I feel like over our wow classic lives, we will get acquainted on the forums. I am looking forward to making this community my second home.
For those that don’t know, I was one of the unlucky ones who got a sour experience from my first guild upon returning to wow classic.
Instead of turning all that negativity that I experienced into more negativity, I decided that my second thread on here would be one where I and many others like myself, could learn from, to help us nagivate the toxic waters of the online mmo community.
I honestly am absolute sh*t at knowing what kind of guilds are good and which ones are the ones you stay away from with a 10 foot pole.
I would like to know how to spot early warning signs that the guild im in, is, as a fellow player who I was whispering mentioned “the ones who will pass the loot that drops in molten core to their friends” or as I would say “rules apply to you, but not to him, because i like him”.
I wont start off because again, I suck at these. Im more likely to learn from others here.
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Any guild that mandates consumeables or spec is WAY too tryhard for classic. Giant red flag.
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Just be nice to people you meet in game and interact with them when you group up or do dungeons. You do not always need to be searching for a perfect guild, sometimes the perfect guild will find you.
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Its been that way in the starting zones. THE STARTING ZONES. People mocking others for playing paladins. Like seriously, half of you won’t make it to 60, leave the people be. Quit telling them how bad their class is they chose.
Let them decide what they want to do, cause you don’t know if they want to raid, and you don’t know if they do raid if they will have a good group of folks who take the player not the class as I had back in the day. Sheesh.
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Sometimes. I wish that all toxic players would be forced to be with each other. Or have a giant mark on their forehead “T”.
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I think people who unironically use the term “toxic” will always set themselves up for failure and will pass up on many good guilds because of some naughty wrong-think or because said people cannot understand sarcasm or keep up with witty banter.
You will probably never find a good guild as you’ll always look for things to be upset about.
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What does toxic mean to you? I guess we should first define what toxic means to each of us.
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I find toxic as a catch-all term to describe someone you disagree with or don’t understand. It’s a nonword that is applied to anyone and everyone you feel uncomfortable around.
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Ask in the guild chat how many played vanilla. If many answer in the affirmative they’re probably OK. It means not only are they not going to complain, but they’re adults.
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One tip is in the description/recruiting message of the guild.
If it is anything like
“core group of rl friends looking for more to fill ranks”
or
“long term, multi game spanning guild recruiting a few classes”
run
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Personally speaking, I have an easily understood definition for toxic:
A toxic player is a player that, because they are in an online environment (whether it be in discord or otherwise), feel that actions they know they should not partake in are now acceptable, and those actions are what I call toxic.
Here are some examples:
Being racist
Showing favouritsm in circumstances where favouritsm bring a detriment to at least one other member of the community.
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And how do you know what they know they should or shouldn’t partake in? See? You’re looking for trouble and you’ll always find it. One man’s toxic is another man’s joke. Change your mentality, lighten up a bit and you’ll find a good guild.
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Top tip I have for joining a non-toxic guild in Classic is: Play Horde side.
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Oh thats easy.
I go by whats socially acceptable/blatantly obvious that the action would be punishable in the real world.
For example:
Would you call someone a racist term in public? No.
So what gives you the right to do so on discord? Because the law cant get to you? Ok. If so, youre a toxic player.
I’m sure you’re aware that laws are different from country to country and that there are very few gold standards as to what “society” finds acceptable or not. What you’re thinking is your world view because I can guarantee most things you find toxic can be nontoxic to a less whiney majority in society. So, again, you’re looking for trouble.
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Go to an rp or rp-pvp realm
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If someone is being racist, or bypassing the accepted loot rules as stated by the person distributing the loot themselves at the critical moment, that to me, is engaging in toxic behaviour.
If its the term toxic that’s bothering you so much, we can just be specific, as many posters have been in this thread.
But continuing this one is making you seem like youre trying to divert the point of this thread, and I wont let you do that. Thats why im not going to continue this back and forth discussion between us on what we define as toxic.
If you cant understand the general point of this thread, perhaps ask for clarification. Many of us here share one thing in common, and that is being mistreated or taken advantage of by others, because they think its ok to do so. And we want to learn to be better. So we arent taken advantage of.
Whats really hard about that to understand?
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i have never been a raider
i like to level and logbutt around doing dungeons and chatting on /1
with classic we dont have the dreaded xrealms so the players i see are all from 1 server
i have not had problems getting groups for anything and i have saved many players as friends
i dont need a guild; or, rather, the whole server is my guild
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I’m letting you know this because perhaps you are the one at fault here. I see an apple, you see an orange. The only difference is that people with your mentality will try to get the apple people blacklisted or /gkicked. Trust me, I’ve seen this over and over again. If anything, it’s the “nontoxic” players that are “toxic.” It’s the people who try to fix perceived wrongthink that end up destroying guilds and causing server drama.
Just trying to help you because your gaming experience will be a lot better and easier if you didn’t have an elitist, “I’m never wrong,” mentality. You should thank people like me for pointing it out.
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