So I’m leveling up a character–which is a MW Monk. And I’ve been looking at guides, gives me a vague idea of the class, but I’ve still haven’t a clue about certain things. Like covenant for an example, or rotation. Convenant is a big one, because theres 3 of them in all guides I’ve seen that are recommended. I’m gonna be doing m+/raiding mainly, so which covenant would be the best? Then for rotation, I know theres, “fistweaving” and “mistweaving” which one is recommended for a newbie? I’m thinking of trying fistweaving since it seems the heals for that is amazing. What are your guys thoughts?
Sounds like you might wanna go venthyr! Venth finally got great buffs for mist in its covenant specific legendary reducing the cooldown of fallen order. Venth leggo and fistweaving are great for both raiding and m+.
The only downside is that venth is not exactly amazing for windwalker or brew, but so long as this is a dedicated mist character you will probably be happy there.
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I’m going to be dedicated to MW Monk. :))
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Great thing about venth leggo is that it’s not terribly complicated to use. Just stack at much crit as you can to shorten the cd as much as possible and spam those monks!
Always keep the Renewing Mists rolling. I literally always keep both charges on cooldown.
I can really only speak to Fisting but so far I’ve used Night Far, Venthyr and currently Necrolords.
If I was gunna be a dedicated Mistweaver with no ambition of off speccing I would have stayed Venthyre and most likely interchanged between Ancient Teachings Leggo and the Sinful Delights Venthyr class one.
In all reality, unless you are super dedicated to Fistweaving and just have an illogical love for the playstyle, you could likely just make the Venthyr class Leggo, stack Crit and Mastery and be good to pump.
I only went Necro, yesterday in fact I switched because I just came back to playing my Monk again and I really like all 3 specs but mainly Brew and MW.
Mistweaver is unique to other healers in a few ways but mainly because you really have to be mindful of what spells you are using due to Mana Costs being insanely high compared to other healers.
So, watch your Mana, keep hots running and have fun!
My preference is for Night Fae. I think the Dreamweaver soulbind is particularly powerful for Fistweaving. Specifically, Dreamweaver’s Empowered Chrysalis conduit turns 10% of you overhealing into an absorb shield, and works well with Ancient Teachings of the Monastery: if nobody needs healing, you’re going to dps the boss and the legendary will keep pumping heals because that’s what it does. At least with that conduit, the healing is not completely lost.
I’ll admit the covenant ability isn’t the best, but it’s good for fistweaving because the Essence Font bolts from Faeline Stomp benefit from Rising Mist (and Upwelling, if you’re into that).
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Yeah, I remember discussing this a while ago, it may look like the fae main ability is situational / not as good, but the soulbind trees are really strong. Fae stomp needs to cost much less mana, though.
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Can’t believe I forgot to mention in above post but make use of your ability to cleave heal via Renewing Mists. That’s the whole reason keeping those Hots spread around is so important.
It’s also likely why Mana Costs are so high.
Always take advantage of Vivify cleaving into your Renewing Mists targets.
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I’m so sorry to hear that, afterall it is by far the worst healer right now in pve and pvp. Good luck finding a mythic+ group as a mw monk…
My logs would like to have a word with you: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N4vY2KjPD6X9W3Ry#fight=20&type=healing
According to that log your healing was on parr with the other healers, equal to the other 2 healers who were almost 15 ilvls lower than you. The only thing that seperates you from the others was 2 massive spikes in healing which were clearly your revivals. You would probably be third on the list if not for your revivals. Infact the 229 ilvl rsham had alot higher constant heals than you most of the time. Your revival is the only thing, so if the guy wants to be useful once every 3mins in a raid fight, sure go mw.
But for mythic + mw monk is the lowest and you clearly haven’t done any +15 to show otherwise.
On other sites who list the better healer for raiding, mw is ther lowest above holy priest which no one plays in raiding. Plus you aren’t using the ancient teachings of monostary legendary, since that is the only thing that makes them viable in raiding. Anyways without those 2 revivals you would prob be 4th looking at the graph considering alot of them plus 2 healers weren’t even geared, so don’t be proud you out healed 2 undergeared healers by only 2 revivals.
(Click on the colour bar next to each healers name to make the graph show healign throughout the fight).
So you just bacically verified that MW are indeed not “The Worst Healer”.
I’m not saying MW can’t use some love and developmental kindness(especially in M+) but it’s not like they are a net loss to bring along.
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They have one useful ability, revival once every 3 mins. All other healers have more useful constant abilities and aoe. The raid would be better taking any healer over a mw monk. The raids only need a monk there of any spec for the 5% physical debuff anyway.
Not a mistweaver myself, but check out the peak of serenity website and discord for all things monk related, one of the best run class discords out there.
This is half true.
If they are running ATOTM, they are one of the weaker group utility healers while being competitive but not top at throughput. So yes, they wouldn’t have a high priority over other healers.
If they are running Sinister Teachings, you are dead wrong. That 3min CD is reduced too much that it’s arguably become one of the strongest CDs available strictly because of how frequent you get a heal nuke. I’m not normally a proponent for RNG power, like the RSK->Revival CDR I don’t view as reliable. However the CDR on Sinister Teachings is absolutely insane even if you mess it up. It was on the medium to the low end of 3min throughput CDs, however when the CD is reduced to roughly 30sec it quickly changes the value to outclass almost every other healer. There is a line where insane throughput becomes more valuable than utility, and it’s usually Paladin who’s got it in the form of damage, hands, or DR, but not this tier.
I can’t speak to PvP, but as far as PvE you are very very far off the marker.
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Even running ATotM as a Necrolord MW, no healer could consistently outheal me and only Hpallies do more damage. As Venthyr no one can come within 3k on Guardian (Same ilevel).
MW is the strongest throughput healer in the game and top 3 DPS Healers as well.
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Fist weaving currently is stronger and more mana efficient then mist weaving
It is hard to find some info on mw monks since they haven’t really been popular up untill recently the best advice I can really offer is to go to the the monk discord they have some of the best and helpful monks in the game
I do just fine healing +15s on my MW. You shouldn’t discourage people from playing what they enjoy.
Either get a weak aura, or just get used to using renewing mists on cooldown. It doesn’t matter if the party is topped off because it’s a smart heal, and you will want all five people with it for group damage because when it’s active, vivify cleave heals all with it on, so you want it on everyone.
Also regardless if you fistweave, get used to doing damage because 1) you apply an important debuff and 2) you should do damage to help the group.
If you focus on those two things, you will have basics down and can start to improve on specific things.