Tips for healing as a Paladin?

As the title says.

I want to try healing on my Paladin and I’m not new to healing, but I have never tried healing as a Holy Paladin before, so any tips would be much appreciated. :pray:

currently there’s two ways to heal as a holy paladin, first is a fist weaver monk aka melee healing and then u have caster holy paladin that plays like a “Holy” priest, you constantly cast with instant skills in between.

you constantly have to use “Extra Step” in order to let out healing, like rogues u have to regen combos in order to use your major abilities like word of glory - big single target heal that requires 3 holy power.

i suggest u go see the newest way of healing, “melee healing” since it is more mainstream right now but if u don’t like that way of gameplay, u can still play like a priest in plate, your attributes/ secondary stats won’t be the same as melee.

melee - mastery / haste / mid crit, but mostly mastery is dead lol. (crusader strike mechanic, avenging crusader focus)

caster - critical strike / haste / vers (infusion mechanic + judgement)

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Thank you very much! I will try out both styles on some training dummies and see if I can get a hang of melee healing.

Got to say that I am relieved to hear that melee healing isn’t the only way of healing as a HPal though.

ranged healing is simpler and now very effective.

  1. get every talent that buffs holy shock (pick illumination over blessed focus)
  2. pick up Inflorescence of the Sunwell, and every time holy shock crits you get two free flash of lights
  3. use Word of Glory in dungeons instead of Light of Dawn
  4. Get Beacon of Faith for two beacons, and put them on the two dps who always stand furthest away from you

You’re 90% of the way there with these four things.

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Ahm… Honestly just take some time to check the guide as wingsisup.com.

**Also what the other person said about melee healing is a bit inaccurate, you still want Crit/Haste frist, and you never play Avenging Crusader. But I mean just go to the guide for more clarification.

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Thank you for the tips!

Thank you for the link! I will go take a look. :grinning:

I am just a smooth brained tank and I haven’t healed since TBC (Resto Druid). I started to look into Holy Paladin in S1 and then I decided I would wait for the rework. I have tried practicing on Target Dummies in Val, I have watched Video’s and I just don’t get it. How are you guys building holy power via damage and healing players in dungeons and pvp? I have mouseover macros, I have target of target macros and I just can’t get the feel down.

I know a lot of people use VuhDo and I was a Grid/Clique guy back in the day so I have to try to learn this addon but when I watch videos I see paladins healing targets but I don’t see them hovering over any party frame and never deselect the damage target. What am I missing? Is this a clique targeting feature?

I just use mouse over casting from the default settings and have my player frames set in the middle so I can just mouse over and hit whatever spell needed at that moment. I’ve tried clique/vuhdo or other healing frame addons and I just cannot get it down.

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Some thoughts on this. Note I am not a great player. I’m good for my level, I think, but I’m not a Mythic raider or pushing really high keys, but this is what helps for me:

Building holy power: Not as much of an issue as it was pre-rework. Take Light’s Conviction for 2 charges of Holy Shock; Crusader Strike and Judgment each generate HoPo, and in Wings Hammer of Wrath will give you another. Since we can actually use abilities that have a cast time (Tyr’s, FoL) or trigger GCD (Light’s Hammer, Prism, Barrier of Faith), that allows a bit of recharge time on Shock/CM. Talent into Divine Resonance and Daybreak/Rising Sunlight, and you can swim in HoPo. Divine Purpose, Tower of Radiance and Glorious Dawn talents can also help with HoPo.

I used to love VuhDo until I somehow lost my profile, spent two hours rebuilding it only to lose it again, and then had it happen again. Now I use Enhanced Raid Frames and bound everything to various mouse buttons (mostly) with Clique and/or mouseover macros. I am probably 90+% of the time targeted on an enemy but hover over my party/raid frames (which are also arrayed beneath my character). I’ll be honest, I’m not sure how some of those guys do it. I’m also not sure how they manage to cast so much. I think I’m slower in both my hands and my decision making!

I don’t find target dummies super-helpful for healing practice from the standpoint of raid/dungeon simulation; they can be helpful, though, for seeing how certain abilities work or interact with each other.

Good luck!

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Healium is my go to. I love it.

and try not to use healbot OP, train urself without it.

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this is from current experience and veteran perspective :slight_smile: i wasn’t around during the end of legion till dragon flight.

No way I could do Healium with my screen full of spells lined across the screen with everyone in a raid setting.

Whatever you do, you can’t be worse than the Pally one of my toons grouped with that somehow managed to a) be third in overall healing, but also b) cast fewer than 10 WoG/LoD in the entire dungeon. And people were dying…

Long story short, use your HoPo, use your Beacon of choice, Divine Toll is AMAZING, and don’t sit on your cooldowns too much.

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No what you said was completely wrong. Don’t give bad information to people asking for help with healing. Avenging Crusader is bad numbers wise now, and also still likes mastery (you said it was dead, but AC works with mastery and we were stacking it to 45-50% in Aberrus before 10.1.5 as it was one of our best stats alongside haste). You give out so much misinformation on this forum it’s so bad.

Now, there is one main way of healing in 10.1.5, you can change some talents around towards the bottom but overall the gameplay is largely the same. We still play in melee, but can play in ranged no problem as well. I’d check out the wowhead or wingsisup guides and even icyveins if you want as well.

Small breakdown of current gameplay for raiding:

-Keep 8 glimmers out for Daybreak

-After hitting daybreak, use divine toll to get 5 glimmers out immediately, spend your holy power, and then hit holy shock>spend>holy shock>spend>holy shock>spend, this is a big healing window for us.

-keep Tyr’s deliverance up for the full minute. Don’t let this fall off, it’s very easy to keep up. It does a lot of healing, and also boosts the healing of your holy shock/flash of light/holy light spells, so you ideally want to track the buff on your frames and heal those people with the buff to get 25% increased healing on those spells.

-With infusion of Light up, use Judgment or Flash of Light. Both are very good, if healing is needed it is better to use Flash of Light especially if it won’t overheal. This will give 2 second cdr to Holy shock so will allow you to holy shock more. However, always prioritize pressing holy shock and keeping 8 glimmers for daybreak.

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if it doesn’t works for you that doesn’t mean it is wrong. i played this game so much since tbc, but it is good to see people like u still exist in this game. next time look at it in the perspective of a new player and what a new player would do to play a new character and how to make it easier for them, damn shame if u are a veteran but it seems everyones EGO raptor over wide understanding of things.

  • not everyone is gonna play the same as you do, they’ll have to develop their own skills naturally

The guide on Wowhead is also a very good guide if you’re just looking to understand the basics, wingsisup then for more advance tips and tricks. And practice, LFR can be annoying but I find it to be a low risk place to practice rotations.

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This was very helpful, thank you! :smile: I took my Holy Paladin on a test drive and I’m liking it a lot. Will need some getting used to though, since I’m used to having only mana to worry about as a healer.

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Its not about what works for you or me, its about telling someone to play something that will get them worse results no matter what they do. You -can- play it if you are looking to play melee and not care about performance right, but the question was about how to heal on hpal which is a performance based question, so telling them to play a suboptimal build is not good information to pass around. A new player might go into lfr or normal and if they use AC, they will just do less healing than other holy paladins by default and also wont really fully learn the playstyle which was the question. It is objectively suboptimal, it maths out to be worse and has been really bad on logs for the few who have tried it that are also good. It is not a good recommendation for anyone, and you can still recommend a melee playstyle that matches up with the current playstyle, it just involves Holy infusion and Awakening talents.

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No problem! Its actually very fun to have two resources to manage, but holy paladins have not had a good time with holy power since its reintroduction into shadowlands. However, this rework got it into a really nice spot where all of our spells do pretty good healing or contribute to cooldowns doing good healing so it doesnt feel like holy power takes over the spec, but is a resource you still want to pay attention to.

Luckily though for holy paladin right now, mana is not really much of a concern. Once you get the trinket off of Rashok (rashoks molten heart), mana is not a problem with good daybreak usage+winter. If mana ever does become a problem we have a lot of mana return talents to spec into if we need to which is really cool.