Tinker class

Then ask for a mech suit transmog and be done with it. If sentries are added to the game they should be for engineers.

That doesn’t even make sense. Mech Suits are PART of the Tinker class. from Wc3

what class is Mekkatorque? What About Gazlowe? Gallywix? The Felsworn Orcs in HFC?

“If Sentries are added to the game they should be completely useless outside of PVP”

Your class abilities are always better.

Engineers xd

There’s an Engineer class? Awesome! How do I make one?

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been hearing a lot lately. Especially with things like the legendary cloak of 8.3, all I’ve heard from engineers lately is how they “love their very well defined niche in the game.”

That’s not the same thing. There’s a difference between poor implementation and a bad idea, and I’m certain there are ways they could make this class a really fun one while still keeping engineering relevant.

That’s not what people want.

Do you really think that people, given the option to play a real “engineering class” would decline because maybe, just maybe, the profession that used to be awesome might one day stop being lackluster again?

And the class itself doesn’t have to step on its toes. Engineering and Tinkers can coexist, but the profession is never going to get turrets or bots that work almost as hunter pets because it would be too overpowered.

A tinker would allow for fantasy abilities that engineering could never ever possess for balance reasons. Engineering can never be that powerful or that interesting because people would be forced to go down that route to be optimal. The only way we could ever get that type of actual gameplay is by having a class, not a profession.

It’s just a graphic.

Doesn’t matter if class abilities are better, tech gadgets belong to engineers. They are a supplement to the class.

They could be a supplement to the Tinker class. You know.

You know what. Do me a favor:
Come up with a New gadget for Engineers.

Something you Think should belong specifically on Engineers and NOT on Tinkers.

I’d rather a handful of classes get an additional spec over a new class entirely

The Two things are not mutually exclusive at all. But I understand this point of view. I’d love a lot of new specs to be added.

But Tinkers are a Hero from Warcraft 3 that goes painfully unrepresented in WoW.

What does that matter? I don’t want a class encroaching on the gadget niche engineering has. We would be much better off with a class that changes gameplay in a meaningful way.

You can’t just say “You don’t want it” Give me an example.

What would be taken from you. You say “Tinker would get gadgets that belong on Engineer”
But what gadgets specifically would go to Tinkers? Because nothing that Tinkers have treads on engineers boots. At all.

I Think a new class with a new Tank spec does change gameplay in a meaningful way.

If you don’t think so, then that’s subjective. But it really doesn’t matter to your argument

It doesn’t have to be “taken” to encroach on what engineering is about. Someone doesn’t have to take your job to open up the same business next door and diminish yours.

Your argument is subjective so it doesn’t matter.

That is BEYOND petty.

You’ll have your feeling hurt because your profession is overshadowed by people having fun on a new class

Just enjoy your profession that makes gadgets and bombs. Everyone who wants to play tinker will enjoy their missiles, sentries, mech suits, and other firepower.

You Must’ve hated Survival Hunters getting bombs, It diminished the fun of being an engineer.

You’ll still have your Niche. But that’s all it will be, a Niche profession. It’s not a class. And Tinkers SHOULD be a class. That’s more in line with WC3.

I promise you’ll still be able to be a Lone Wolf Hunter that uses engineering bombs in PvP. None of that will go anywhere.

Feelings are irrelevant. A tinker doesn’t bring anything ground breaking to the game AND at the same time encroaches on existing paradigms. At least if it was only one or the other it wouldn’t be a doubly awful idea.

The current implementation of survival hunter is abhorrent all around, what a perfectly sad example.

Anything New will encroach on existing paradigms Unless you want a class that doesn’t tank, heal, or do damage.

Survival hunter is fun. I love it. And It doesn’t encroach on engineers just because it has a bomb.

You’ll note. When Survival hunter came to be in legion. Engineering didn’t suddenly lose any bombs or gadgets. Factual evidence.

It shouldn’t have come at the cost of old survival.

No, those are “roles”, not classes.

I hate new survival.

But it didn’t encroach on engineering.

And some people like it. Myself included.

Tinker would be pretty similar.
Except you just might like it. God forbid you wanna play a class that uses bombs and sentries. It seems like you do.

Melee hunter is terrible because it took away one of the options I rolled the class for (pure ranged dps) and at the same time splits class development into considering both ranged and melee. All resources should be focused on making it the best pure ranged physical class possible, which they have already struggled with constantly.

The majority of hunters that are actually happy with the state of the class are the people who rolled it for a reason it was never intended to be. And don’t even bring up “melee hunters in vanilla”. I was there, I played survival, and even with all of the melee abilities you were still better at range vs every class/spec combination EXCEPT for another hunter not specced deep survival.

That is why I hate it.

Inb4 lolr3xxrawr lore queen citations

It’s bad because YOU don’t like it? It removed some of the fantasy YOU liked

I Like Melee hunter, we got back hunter abilities from Vanilla. It’s awesome.

Hate it as MUCH as you want, but some people love it. I Think it’s a super fun spec, once you have a ton of haste.

I’m sorry you dislike so much. But it’s the same argument with tinker.

It wouldn’t encroach on engineering, It wouldn’t prevent you from playing a Ranged hunter that uses engineering. You could continue exactly as you do now. And no harm would come to you just because people are enjoying a new class.

If YOU don’t like it. that’s fine. but other people will.

If it ruins your fun to know that they can use explosives too, then I don’t know what to tell you other than “Get Thicker Skin”

Who cares? Lol. You think people care what you like? You are in here trying to take a position of authority spouting your opinions but when I state mine you pull a “well that’s just your opinion hurr durr”. What a joke.