Timegating raids

Why is March on Quel’Danas timegated by an additional week?

We gather our army (of elves, and literally nothing else because I guess they don’t matter, especially not the Horde protecting one of their own), we do all these chores for them and we all gather at Silvermoon having a real bad time and we…Sit here for a week.

Meanwhile M+ is wide open, and for the first time in a very long time I feel like I actually have to because I’m going to fall behind if I just raid like I have been doing. I don’t know if I really want to but I’m going to fall behind otherwise because a chunk of raiding is just entirely locked off for no real discernible reason?

Help me out here. I don’t understand why this is taking such a hot minute to release.

And yes I know AQ raids were timegated but it was a huge server wide event, where people were gathering supplies for a war. You had a prime opportunity to try to repeat that, and it’d actually be neat and cool to have everyone get together in defense of Silvermoon, and Azeroth! You could’ve had other races involved, putting in their support, providing logistics and other things!

But nope, only elves, fixing their own problems. A loop without end.

If I had to guess, it’s to support narrative progression.

Excluding spoilers…they wanted everyone to have plenty of time to complete the 1st raid to unlock the cutscene before continuing the story…because that was a huge event

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But that has no reason to be timegated, either! Just have Story Mode available from the rip! It doesn’t give anything but a friggin’ Champ cloak which, by the time you clear it you probably already have five of!

I would get that if it was a more drawn out thing but this is literally the first patch. If this is how the raid development is going to go I’d rather just have the one, fully done raid instead of one raid, one fight and one unfinished raid that takes a month later to actually do.

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Personally I like seeing the united elven forces holding the gate to Quel’Danas. Putting themselves between the void and the city, while their leadership plans for the march. I guess these types of things are lost on folks with no imagination. We’re gonna’ have a whole season to kill these bosses, and you’re upset that the elven army isn’t already in combat when you zone back into Silvermoon. Some people will never find joy in anything smh.

I’m finding plenty of joy in Midnight, to be honest. Mostly a good time. I just don’t really like this style of raid release. My friend I was talking to about this compared it to an episodic TV show and I get it? I just don’t like it.

To extend the disappointment that is going to be this season lorewise before 12.1.

I completely agree, I dont really raid cause I barely have time anymore but still enjoy playing the story and having the campaign timegated for weeks at a time feels extremely tedious.

I log in, do a quest or two for the campaign, maybe a delve, Log out and wait a week to do it again…

Timegating the third raid seems fine. It could just be 1 raid per season, like it has been :man_shrugging:

Four weeks from now is anyone going to be complaining that they time gated the Quel’Danas raid from for weeks ago to three weeks ago?

If they are not, and of course they are not, then it doesn’t really matter. Everyone on the planet knows the anti time gaters get over each gate as they go through it.

Story progression and having there be new things to do every week.

I actually like what they are doing here. Gives the story more impact without leaving us in limbo. They could have easily just had the Voidspire be the final boss of the tier and leave us in a narrative cliffhanger limbo for months, or launched the final raid immediately and have the Darkwell be a thing that exists for all of 2 seconds before we bop L’ura on the figurative head and stop that.

But this way? We get to feel the tension of the Darkwell, the looming threat over Silvermoon, while also not having to wait literal months for the resolution of it. We do the Voidspire, get the cliffhanger ending, get to feel like we’re actually making preparations to assault the new looming threat, and then swiftly take action against it.

I’m sure hardcore raiders with no interest in the story are chomping at the bit to get in there, but it’s not like they’ve finished Mythic Voidspire yet anyway, and making them wait a week or two is well worth having an actual feel of narrative progression.

If anything, my actual complaint is that LFR and Story Mode won’t be up next week. I’m in a decent guild that raids so I’ll be fine, but the narrative progression kinda gets ruined a little by being an extra week behind any casual guild that can do week 1 Normal.

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