Dude, if you bring in so many CC, of course its easy. You can fear 2, banish 2, trap 1.
Clearly, you don’t get the point.
The point is the damage from the trash is BIGGER than what a raid boss can do. The dungeon rewards is not great.
It simply does not make sense. Its just poor game design.
Not to mention by the time we get better badge rewards kara starts dropping badges too. So yeah… there’s 22 badges that are easier than some of those heroics…
Why would anyone do the harder heroics for badge farming? I’d rather do the easier heroics or kara for badges, even on a mega server like mine nobody really does the harder Heroics.
You have to have the right comp, CC etc for the harder ones. Maybe I just want to grab a few people, maybe help a fresh 70 get some gear and not plan out a heroic like I would a bank heist.
I haven’t tried BF this time around but I do remember them getting nerfed in like phase 3 or 4. I feel like they use them as gear checks when they are specific attunement quests.
If you can’t do bm dont do kara
If you cant do heroic arc dont do TK etc
They’re not gear checks, they’re group comp checks + can you even find anyone who wants to do them now checks.
ONly heroic I have ever had trouble with as a tank was H BF lol. The mobs when pulled would thrash you for like 3k-4k each hit. Even fighting just one mob with the rest CC’d - it still uses thrash even when it has not left melee range and will roast a lot of tanks. The hardest part was the trash gauntlet before the 2nd boss. Half of the mobs couldn’t be slowed or rooted and even with an ideal comp it is still a challenge.
Sometimes it is good to have something in the game that is very difficult like H BF is. Good luck tho even finding a group of 5 players that want to do this instance better yet an ideal comp of all classes that have hard recastable CC.
No dropping 5 classes into a dungeon and letting them aoe the whole place down is bad game design.
So what people can do with pally tanks in TBC?
Apples and Oranges mr forum contrarian.
HBF doesn’t screw around.
You tanked Morogrim? Hold my beer - a couple of fel orcs with nades
Always with the nerfs. Wtf is wrong with people? I would never ask for a nerf of anything in a video game. You either beat it as intended… or not. And that’s okay. Not everyone can be a winner.
I seems to remember all cc breaking after like 3 seconds regardless no? i didn’t do it a whole lot.
If you cc in a consecrate, aoe, or on a dotted target then yes it will break every 3 seconds.
yeah. obviously, but i just gotta sworn the cc time on this fel orcs or whatever they’re called - in the cages the cc time wasn’t very long - at least for sheep.
Well I know for a fact that they sat in a full duration fear and seduce when we did it the other night. The one that got frost trapped seemed to hold too.
Hmmm. I’m gonna go have to try it again.
They shouldn’t. Attunements should be removed at historical/reasonable milestones, and content no one wants to run outside of stark necessity ought to remain as a reminder of why Blizzard did what they did for Wrath and beyond (and why TBC is cool, but not the best).
So if they intentionally designed a boss that insta one-shot your entire party with absolutely zero counterplay, you’re just not good enough at the game and you have to accept that? Game designers aren’t infallible, they make mistakes like anybody else, intentional or not.
Personally I think HBF is slightly overtuned for pre-raid content. If you compare it to other heroics (minus a few) it’s miles ahead in terms of difficulty. I don’t think it should be nerfed into the ground, but I think a non-ideal group comp should be able to go in and clear it in an hour or so.
You remind me of my friend who got filtered playing Nier automata intro. How does it feel to be in such elite company?
There is. Once every so often you get 2 extra badges and 24g.
Heroics are fine, Yes some are more group dependant than others but there doesn’t need to be more incentive beyond pre-raid BiS, rep,badges and gems.
If you don’t need those then don’t do it unless you’re willing to suffer alittle for your friends.