Time to get rid of alliance bonus in Wpvp

Thwain-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:19pm

I have been informed that alliance is not able to complete ALL WQ’s while in a raid, which was my impression and my issue with it. Seeing as that isnt the case : All is well. Keep on Keepin on.

Fyrelocked-malganis · January 4, 2019, 3:21pm

Since the buff, I still see horde heavily outnumbering most of the incursions I’ve been in, or at least being somewhat balanced (and very fun when there isnt excessive lag).

Wariya-stormrage · January 4, 2019, 3:23pm

So what i get from this thread is

You want wpvp but not too much wpvp

Lóthorin-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:24pm

Git gud.
The Alliance is waiting for you.
More Horde tears.
Organize your own team and fight back.
Turn off WM.
All the other things the Horde told the Alliance for the past several months.
Etc.

Zaphorite-moon-guard · January 4, 2019, 3:24pm

This is the same thing Alliance was dealing with all throughout BfA. Horde constantly outnumbering Alliance 10+ vs 1 while doing WQs, that Alliance couldn’t even get them done.

And when Alliance complained we were told to stop whining/crying about it. If we didn’t like it, then turn off Warmode and stop complaining.

Oh how the tables have turned…

Nerfessra-hyjal · January 4, 2019, 3:24pm

Nah… let them keep the buff. I like to kill them and make them work for that 30%.

Hankypanky-windrunner · January 4, 2019, 3:24pm

They can’t take away the bonus. It’s the only thing keeping Alliance in WM.

Thwain-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:25pm

im not crying about it, there needs to be a fix. if youre going to allow one faction to 40 man raid while doing these WQ’s, you have to let the other. that is balance, by definition.

You can keep the extra reward, god knows you need it.

Bojanglz-whisperwind · January 4, 2019, 3:26pm

Thwain:

I live for world pvp, who doesnt. At this point however as horde doing assaults it is a CONSTANT face roll of alliance to horde 4:1 . You cant allow alliance to raid these WQ’s while not allowing the horde. This is one of the most absurd solutions to “balance” issues you have ever provided. Limit it to 10 man, at the VERY least. If it was a server based issue, I could see this being a half manageable fix, however these are CROSS SERVER realms, to which as horde unless you want to strictly pvp and disregard the WQ’s that arent “boss” kills, you stand absolutely no chance, as you cant join a raid. It is constantly 4:1, 3:1 at best in these assaults. It’s bad enough that they get bonus loot for being in said raid… get this garbage taken care of. You are doing the exact opposite of balancing world Pvp. Give them the bonus loot for the raid, sure, but you have to allow horde to complete these WQ’s in a raid as well.

Time to get rid of the Horde having the better racials than too. Oh wait, you guys would cry about that too. I mean, I guess 14 years isn’t long enough yet with them.

Horde cries no Alliance turns on War Mode (due to many reasons).
Blizzard does something to get the Alliance to turn on War Mode.
Horde cries now that Alliance have some reason to turn it on and killing Horde now.

Too funny.

Zaphorite-moon-guard · January 4, 2019, 3:26pm

Well, Horde were already raiding Alliance like I said all throughout BfA. They were in large raid groups ganking and camping at WQs to prevent Alliance from doing them.

So now Alliance is doing it. So there is your balance.

Voidarcane-dalaran · January 4, 2019, 3:26pm

I would say alliance only outnumbers the horde 1 in every 7 shards, from playing both sides during Assualts while War Mode is on.

Funny how when more alliance have intensive and they have an advantage in 1 shard do people come screaming to the forums the same people who likely gank lowbies.

Wariya-stormrage · January 4, 2019, 3:26pm

Sounds like you crying about alliance raiding your club house

Thwain-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:28pm

I am speaking purely on world quests… raiding cities and whatever… thats part of the game. I have no problem with ANY of that.

My only problem, is that Horde cant complete world quests while in a raid, and alliance can. which very frequently equates to situations where the horde are heavily out numbered.

Voidarcane-dalaran · January 4, 2019, 3:28pm

LOL and how many horde 40 man groups are up? When I look at premade groups for raids for camping WQ’s horde side I see usually 10 fill up quite fast but when i’m alliance side it takes 1 40 man a while to fill up LOL

Kypookins-baelgun · January 4, 2019, 3:28pm

Horde complaining, about no Alliance with Warmode on, is why there is a 30 percent buff.

Thwain-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:29pm

again, you are all completely missing the point. If we choose to group in a raid, we cant complete the WQ’s which discourages us from grouping until we are done. Which, as ive clearly stated, is the issue.

Voidarcane-dalaran · January 4, 2019, 3:30pm

And ive stated horde is doing the same 40 man raid groups with MUCH GREATER frequency, the thing is they complete the WQ before hand and camp the area, they already did all of the WQ’s and final boss.

Kéres-sargeras · January 4, 2019, 3:30pm

Alliance cannot complete world quests in raid groups any more than Horde can. I’m not sure what makes you think otherwise.

Maybe you’re just seeing what Alliance in WM have been seeing since the beginning of the expansion - raid groups formed specifically for the purpose of killing Horde.

Thwain-wyrmrest-accord · January 4, 2019, 3:30pm

why would i bring logic to a video game forum. myyyyyy god i forgot how moronic these forums can be.

Voidarcane-dalaran · January 4, 2019, 3:31pm

What we do, we all complete the WQ’s in 5 man groups then we form into 40 man raid groups after we finished the WQ’s and the faction assault boss, we stay there to camp and kill alliance/horde for the honor points and achivo’s.