Time Spiral - When have you used this?

Classes Evoker
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How often do you use Time Spiral?

“Bend time, allowing you and your allies to cast their major movement ability once in the next 10 sec, even if it is on cooldown.”

Do you use it enough that you’d be annoyed if it got switched out for something else?

The other two capstones arent too bad, a nice stun or a group speed boost/damage reduction.

What ideas do we have floating around for this middle capstone?

I’d love to see the capstone change disintegrate but you choose an aspect to alter it.

Bronze let’s you target an ally, increasing haste of your target during the channel.

Red applies a burn to the target

Emerald let’s you target an ally with a focused heal beam

Blue allows you to target an ally, increasing spell power during channel/removes mana cost during channel.

Black channel on an ally lowers their damage taken.

The effects are just random thoughts, the main idea is the capstone would allow you to alter disintegrate to match an aspect of your choice.

What other ideas are floating out there, or do you think the current capstone is great as is?

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Raz Tempest winds and bombs in P1 apart from that, not often lol

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It’s good on mythic Sennarth. It’s practically mandatory on mythic Raszageth.

Otherwise it’s pretty niche. I like it though… it would also be very strong if we had a fight like Ghuun or Carapace of Nzoth where you need to traverse a large distance and deal with movement impairments.

Maybe it has some use in pvp? But yeah it’s basically never going to be used outside of organized raids - but that’s what I care about most.

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I started using it more as I began doing preemptive hovers for mechanics. 4 hovers helps alleviate the pain of the poorly designed spec that is devoker.

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i see it in a few builds of top performing evokers in logs for Raids which is where it makes the most sense

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It is another charge of hover, it is better than zaphyr

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That is pretty much the only justification you would need. I understand that other classes might benefit from Zephyr more, but we can cast with hover.

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Uh. Sennarth during the run up the stairs/pull-in. Dathea during the pull in. Terros when he quarters the room. Raz when people are running the circles out.

Basically any time somebody needs to get somewhere else and they may not have the means to do so.

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Part of the problem with Time Spiral is that the usefulness overlaps heavily with warlock gate and roar/wind rush for stuff like this. On Terros you absolutely just want to have the ranged take a warlock gate instead of relying on a personal movement skill to be reset by time spiral (priests lol). Your melee will be stacked for a wind rush/roar. And the evoker saves a gcd and a class tree point.

Dathea is a pretty good use-case that I probably should have mentioned in my earlier post, even if you probably don’t personally benefit that much. There are a bunch of classes that will appreciate it.

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I use it often in rbgs. Rescue plus that means flag carrier love.

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Noted :slight_smile:
I’m only up to H ras, I contemplated using it for the fight but everyone seemed to be fine without it. I might try it out next attempt though just to see.

I’ll have to give it a shot, that does sound useful for the times I use my Devo build.

I’ve found lock gate is basically unbeatable in Terros.

I could give it a whirl on sennarth though, I’ve been using zephyr because of damage damage reduction

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I mean i use both

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I’ll admit, you guys have convinced me to give it a go. :slight_smile:

I’m sure I have a talent or two that I just placed because I had nowhere better to put it.

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It’s good in niche PvP scenarios (e.g., with a Warlock). But it’s lackluster for sure.

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I argued this Talent choice to death on Beta, a huge cap stone talent that will be rarely picked out of a few niche scenarios isn’t good.

I argued with every other classes capstones provided a combination of Defensives, Utility and Offensive capstones, yet our capstones are three Utility ones, Stun on Deep Breath, useless for Preservation, another cast of a mobility skill will literally see play 5% of the time as only required in Mythic Raiding, although not mandatory it’s been done without it and Zephyr which has Utility in PvE.

We could seriously remove Time Spiral and literally 95% of Evokers wouldn’t even notice.

A capstone shouldn’t be such a niche choice, it should be impactful, make it worth the investment, you look at other class capstones and they add so much more that seriously improve their dps, defence or generally used much more.

DKs - Empowered Rune Weapon, Abomination Limb are insanely good.

Seriously go look at every other classes capstones and they literally will change how a class performs. Yet Evoker literally has zero.

Nothing impactful, nothing to boost our performance, Zephyr is basically AMZ but just have to invest insane amount of talent points while they get it at only investing 8 Talent points.

I’m loving Evoker, but a lot of changes need to happen.

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I find it pretty essential for survival in pvp so yes I very much notice if I don’t have this ability

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Might be an ok raid CD but i never used it in M+ or Arena.

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I use it all the time. It gives us basically 3 hovers.

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People arguing that Time Spiral is mandatory in PvP are using their mobility incorrectly.

It allows for 1 additional Hover every 2 minutes, which is mediocre. If it gave a 3rd charge, yeah, that would be really good, but it’s on the GCD and has a fairly weak use case.

Can it be impactful? Absolutely. But it’s only genuinely strong in PvP for classes like Warlock, who can double port, or shamans abusing the free aura mastery to land CC.