No it is not. Normal Raiding Teams and Heroic Raiding Teams are two entirely separate groups.
The criteria for being a Heroic Raider is having killed a Heroic boss. Just like the criteria for being a Raider is having killed a Raid Boss. You don’t count until you are actually trying to do the thing.
With your logic… you count every player even if they haven’t killed a normal boss. Otherwise you are cherry picking.
Lol no its actually not why would you count normal raiders when you actually have to kill 6/7H for H rag to even spawn. This is about heroic raiding.
100% of the problems in raiding normal and heroic can be solved by Getting better at the game. No nerfs are needed. Gear is the only nerf that is needed.
nah nerf’s are put in play for a reason if it only needing gear to nerf it down, then they would of never added any in from the start with every raid.
wouldn’t mind if they went through with majordomo’s health nerf on heroic tbh.
God that’s the worst boss in cata by farm.
If we only had dev resourcres to fix this garbage. Nerf his HP and make his stacking debuff on form change apply in some factor to orbs and seeds too, so its not just a cheese fight. Enough that seeds just 1 shot you if you do the cheese.
Firelands is a pretty bad raid honestly. And only 7 bosses is barely enough to feel like a real raid tier.
normal is there for ya bud.
8% of 10 mans is very hard to believe, where are you getting your statistics? Site a source please. 10 man heroic rag is a joke compared to 25 man.
they’re not going to change the fight. They didnt change how General Vezax was on 25 hardmode. When people outgeared the fight they had to literally stop dpsing for upwards of 1-2 minutes for the saronite vapors to all spawn and coalesce before killing the boss. This was heavily complained about and it was never changed.
Imagine crying about doing the mechanics of a fight.
Lol right i remember having enough time to grab snack and come back and still have time to eat my snack.
Hmm what would people say if they waited until 75% of the 6/7 Guilds go 7/7 before applying the nerf.
Realistically if they aren’t able to do H Baleroc by now they is no way they are getting H Rag in any reasonable amount of time. Likewise is they have gotten H Baleroc is is likely just a matter of time before they down H Rag.
Probably would argue for sooner… but the holiday roster boss is a real thing.
No, my logic is that you count a player that has killed any normal boss. That’s my logic. That’s the logic most people have historically gone off of when talking about boss kill metrics.
Agreed, terribly boring fight. Truly is the worst part of every Firelands raid.
Yes, when you are talking about normal that is the metric people have gone off of when talking about normal boss kill metrics.
When people are talking about heroic boss kill metrics they go off if you have killed a boss on heroic. Because there is a difference between a Normal Raider and a Heroic Raider. You can’t count people not doing the content when talking about kill metrics. Which is what you are trying to do. Just like when/if we get LFR you can’t count people doing LFR in the metric when talking about normal kill metrics. They are different.
We are past the holidays we are in January.
When you compare Normal kills, you use Normal raid difficulty. When you compare Heroic kills/progress, you use Heroic raid statistics. Please explain your reasoning as to why normal kills influence heroic progression.
Like you’d know. You bought your carry and gear. You have a 26% best average log. You have ZERO room to speak.
Yeah, because you were dead and being carried. Just stop before you make yourself look even more foolish.
He wont stop, he will just change to a different character.
Yes, we are, but that doesn’t change that the holidays happened during Firelands. So despite it being what Week 11(?), for most it is likely Week 8 or so prog wise.
Yes Joyous journyes needs to be perma at this point, cmon now blizz
Cheesing the fight is actually the opposite of doing the mechanics tho. If people did this strat back in 2011, they would have fixed it.
But these devs obv can’t be bothered to do their jobs here.