Time for a Reboot? Return to the Past?

So for you its not bad, and everyone is wrong

how curious

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I doubt anyone has ever quit WoW for lore purposes. Most often than not it’s just the cherry on top for most people’s engagement with the game. Even when the lore is objectively terrible and the story is nonsensical people will still play. Everyone just quits for the systems and gameplay and then the lore being bad just adds on to that.

People have grown attached to these races and the histories they’ve grown over the course of WoW. Only natural, most people have spent at maximum 20 years with them, if not more if they came from the RTS. Burning all that down isn’t going to solve anything imo because people will always circle back to it.

Almost everyone knows of these races through the lens of WoW. Nobody looks at High/Blood Elves as to how they were depicted pre-TBC because it was so different to how Blizz would eventually write them in TBC.

I see this a lot, and most people just seem to talk about Classic+ and a ‘reboot of the lore’ as a way of exploring the same things we have already explored but just slightly differently. Because whether people like to admit it or not, they love these races and the histories and actions they took throughout WoW’s history. There might be hiccups or terrible moments, but people always go back to them for a reason.

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Funny how that’s not even close to what I said. But you being dishonest is to be expected

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I mean you literally presented your opinion that wow lore isnt as bad as people say it is as fact, so that is exactly what you said.

No one can rly say with a straight face wow lore isnt as bad as people say when shadowlands exist.

Hence my point is wow lore is actually worse, time makes people forget how bad its actually is, people these days now pretend shadowlands wasnt that bad by example

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I definitely am an outlier but I’ve been in 3 seperate guilds not counting remix chars since the start of DF* and “Whurr Hord?” has been a topic discussed in all of them.

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Because you’re taking a subjective opinion about the games lore and acting like everyone agrees it’s all bad

Which isn’t even close to being the case

I am willing to bet some of them are alts of people who post here :face_with_tongue:

its not subjective that shadowlands lore is bad.

its actually one of the few objective takes people have

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It most certainly is subjective. Because SL also had good parts to it too.

Also, all opinions are subjective, they represent just that persons opinion on something

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Sh1t with a truffle inside still is sh!t

Is this also, a subjective opinion?
:dracthyr_tea:

What part of opinions are subjective did you not understand?:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

so, taking that to account, not all opinions are subjective, and can be objective

:dracthyr_tea:

Again, what part of all opinions are subjective are you not understanding?

the irony here is physical :dracthyr_crylaugh:

No it’s not. It’s just you being special dear

It’s interesting looking back, how little pre-Cataclysm Azeroth was explored in the grand timeline of WoW expansions.

We just have Classic-Wrath. TBC mostly focused on Outland, and Wrath with Northrend.

There are still places to explore in the Old World that were not prior.

I wonder if it would have been a good idea if Blizzard had made the next expansion after Classic, still within Azeroth. Instead of jumping right to Outland. I don’t see how playable draenei could work, though blood/high elves could be added. One race for both factions, but different ideology/culture. See more of a pre-redemption blood elves in a darkened state while also introducing the minority of alliance high elves as playable.

Though that could be blueprints for a future Classic+, and the tale can act as a “side reboot”. Retail’s story untouched, but allows another continuity to flourish. Ogres are also another option for a horde playable race.

Right now Blood Elves are basically “Light Elves”, while I never played TBC when it was released, I heard read/heard about them having more edge. I might have to make a blood elf when Anniversary TBC is released…..

Well outland we got cause at time they just couldnt add more tot he world map and needed a seperate world map, was fixed years later

Oh interesting, I did not know that. I assumed the direction to Outland was based on a narrative decision instead of gameplay limitations.

was mostly a gameplay (world map) decission, else they wanted to do a south seas expac as first expac with pirates and what not in part due pirates of caribbean movies populairity at time

Its also they dint expect game to last as long did, so wanted to use their iconic characters like illidan, lich king, even deathwing with cata

Early wow development is pretty fascinating, and if i renember il link some stuff later

I don’t think that narrative holds up to scrutiny. I can buy that they couldn’t add directly onto the continents - the fact that Quel’thalas is behind a load screen supports that - but that would not have stopped them from setting an expansion on islands in the seas. Such islands would also be behind load screens, which from a data-storage standpoint is absolutely no different from Outland.

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