I titled this thread after a thread that Pyrogar made a while ago. I didn’t see any current threads about it, and I couldn’t contain myself. I am just stoked she is in game now. I have been posting about Thura for a while :
It is just so gratifying to see a character you thought had been forgotten actually make an in game appearance.
Too bad she will probably hate me for being a filthy loyalist.
I hope Pyrogar has heard the news!
He has, and he’s extremely excited.
Almost as excited as I was about Saurfang being okay.
Nah he’s a trinket, spirits are mass delusions 
Any character that serves the legacy of Broxigar should be forgotten, Imo. Weird how selective Blizz is with old lore, always picking the worst possible things to remember and include.
I know you’re kidding, but since we’ve got slower folks about I’m going to elucidate that Draka’s Maldraxxi armor proves they’re the genuine article and not echoes.
Only semi kidding. It’s lore that still exists. People like Thrall know what Draka’s Maldraxxi armor looks like, if it’s not actually them then it’s something they’ve willed into existence and what they say are simply the desires of whoever created them.
It’s a guy being proven wrong.
How is that?
Danuser has moved wow to perspectives. SLands’ Chronicle was from the perspective of those dead ethereal guys I don’t remember the name of. He said “hurr durr echoes” but there would be absolutely no echo of Maldraxxi Draka on Azeroth.
The Shadowlands Grimoire is from the perspective of a Broker, a race native to the Shadowlands. If anyone knows anything about spirits it’s people from the realm of the dead. There’s no reason for him to have said that if it didn’t have some truth to it. Draka died on Azeroth so something looking like her spirit can still show.
Why would he know anything about spirits being called from the living realm?
He’s wrong plenty of times in the book, besides.
Because spirits go to the Shadowlands. When people die their spirits go there. If someone sees a lot of actual spirits, I assume it’s not too difficult to see the difference between those that are real and fake.
You missunderstand.
Why would a broker who has never left the Shadowlands know anything about spirits who are summoned from the Shadowlands to the living world?
Either way, Draka’s wearing Maldraxxi gear.
Draka died wearing traditional orc garb.
This is a finished argument.
Fair point.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a long hwhile, and Zerde exists. The sins of the uncle do not exist. Thura is not subject to the crimes (or lackthereof) of others, especially when she wasn’t present or involved in them in any way, shape, or form. She is innocent. She is in absolutely not one single way culpable for the War of Thorns. She owes the Night Elves absolutely nothing.
He talks about dumb as he spells incorrectly. That attempt at a statement is hard to believe, when your own wording is far from genius.
“Owing” and being “culpable” are your words. She does not have to be culpable or in debt to wish to make amends for misdeeds of her family.
No, she doesn’t.
Nor does it make her better to do so.
She is not party to the crime.
She does not have to do one single thing for nelves.
Nelves should not expect one single thing from her.
She already saved their racial leader.
I am glad that we agreed that the nonsense you brought up is exactly nonsense, because I never said she was culpable or that she owed anything.
So… I am glad you refuted some random argument I never brought up, but you wanted to mention.
Better is subjective.
I do not know what you mean by better, but I think the fact that she is even just standing around in game is already better than her prior status - being some obscure character from the novels.
I did post more of what I would have liked to see:
To dispel another one of your random arguments I never made…
You like to bring up strange wording.
Thura does not have to do anything - she has done nothing for quite a while. We were ruminating on what could be, if Blizzard ever placed her in the plot.
As far as what Night Elves expect… I think that would add to the fun.
A legend of a Female Orc with the Axe of Cenarius, who would be seen throughout Ashenvale, helping kaldorei struggling to rebuild, while also helping Horde folks as they trek across. Leaving care packages of supplies for kaldorei, with furs and meat and tools. While guiding Horde travelers on safe routes - maybe even setting up safe zones with kaldorei Sentinels.
No one should expect her help, but it would be a welcome surprise for those on the frontier, on both sides.
You brought up the idea of marrying Thura to the orcs sins, to the weight of their actions, to BFA and the Night Elves which has been a problem for the Horde in total for perpetuity.
You were wrong to do so.
You are wrong to defend doing so.