Whoever thought this dungeon would be a good idea for M+ should be sentenced to 20 years in prison or more. This is the worst designed M+ dungeon in the entire game, out of every season. That is all.
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Oh c’mon, the suuuuper slow elevator was replaced with a portal…what do you mean “worst designed”
(intentionally ignores the utterly brutal trash)
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Haven’t done it yet so my current most hated is the second part of this Dawn of the Infinite dungeon that I never did before.
Is it as bad or worse than pre nerfed Cata dungeons? Because I vaguely remember some of the adds were dumb.
The dungeon got a big makeover for this season. New or tweaked trash and the last boss being the big gunk monster is brand new.
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The hallway before boss 4 is very bad, the debuff that increases shadow damage taken should not exist. That one change would make the dungeon much better already.
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Dungeon would be fine if it wasn’t for the garbage poison spewing miniboss guys. Only other chokepoint of the dungeon is the gauntlet area to the last boss but people don’t understand how the stacking debuff works yet so…
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Well, they had to give it a facelift to bring it into M+. Leaving it unchanged from Cata would probably have been worse.
The trash on the last two bosses is cancer.
I noticed that they changed this BEFORE you could do it as a key. I went in there on a leveling toon last week and it was already different. A lot of that trash still works the same way it did when the dungeon was new back in 2010; they just have new models and new timers.
The only new abilities/mobs I saw in there was the spider looking lady naga and those little raptor looking things with the stupid bleed debuff. The spidery naga lady used to be a large melee naga that would do the same thing (Splash poison on the floor and cast a drown debuff) and the raptor looking things used to be murlocs.
Swell in the last boss gauntlet is not new, and it’s actually easier to see I think.
Gilgoblins being in that last gauntlet are new–they used to ONLY be in the hallway leading to the Shaman boss. They have a new model; but them all casting that channeled spear throw/frosbolt isn’t.
You avoid their one-shot by the tank jumping in and immediately interupting them with a stun, disorient, grip, etc. It’s not a good idea for the tank to go in there with no AoE cc up as he will get one shot on fortified.
The other welcome change is there aren’t two packs of 4 casting naga ladies in one group that would heal everyone to full every freakin cast. (so annoying).
what I miss however, is the voice acting?!?! Why doesn’t the first boss call us meddlesome gnats anymore?
This dungeon needs the final boss nerfed to oblivion, and the trash… dear god that’s cancerous. The replacement for the pack of murlocs just obliterates everyone in the group because their fixate can’t be stopped, nor are they the minions they were before so they last a bit. The new ravager add trucks for no reason and needs to be nerfed.
EVERY. ADD. AFTER. SECOND. BOSS. NEEDS. DELETION. They all suck, they’re all overtuned and just feel absolutely terrible to play with. Constant explosions from constantly spawning minions? If you die in that final hall before ink boss… GG, there’s a million constantly spawning minions ready to blow up and wipe you again.
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The devs forgot that target cap exists as well. Same issue in Black rook with bats. It’s so annoying when you can’t even properly DPS the adds because you only hit half of them.
not only all of this, but not one but TWO packs of Gilgoblins that cant be tanked, random target chuck spears or spam casts is NOT ENGAGING CONTENT, there is nothing to be LEARNED from dying to that trash other than my class doesn’t have a 10second aoe stun to spam in return.
^bring the god comp or die at the gauntlet is not an amenable compromise^
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The bosses don’t seem too bad to me. The last boss could maybe use a few tweaks to the visuals- too much dark color on top of dark color and the glow/shine effect to the clearing beam is obnoxious.
The trash though is absurd. The dogs do way too much damage, have fixate and leap. Who thought that was a good idea? Sentinel’s Crushing Depths healing absorb is absurd and the target starts losing 10% health per second until you heal off the absorb. Oh and the cast that applies it can’t be interrupted or stunned. Oh and it can even target the tank… Oh and there’s a pack with 2 Sentinels and like 4 other mobs. And the gauntlet before the last boss is just not fun at all.
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I did it 3 or 4 times on different keylevels from 15 to 19. Yes the first few tries we dis not time it because of now knowing the dungeon and especially the pack before last boss.
But for the 19 we watched a guide before and in went like a charm. Dungeon is not to difficult if you know how to tackle it.
For the trash before last boss the mechanic is that the poison debuff that is applied by the small adds increase the damage taken by the large adds. The only thing you have to so there is to not chain pull but instead just wait until the debuff expires.
The gauntlet is definitely the worst part of this. The only other thing thats a little out of line is how much the initial tick of dropping the puddle does on last boss; the potential for this to instagib slow classes on tyrannical is going to be bad.
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This means you constantly have adds respawning as you’re not going very fast, and Blizzard in their brilliance added a target cap, so have fun not being able to hit the target you want to 
There are sweet spots where nothing respawns
Appreciate the insight here, a 16 was murder for me earlier tonight. Having better knowledge will definitely help
The Wave of Corruption debuff also only applies when the little adds die. So even when you have a bunch of stacks up, shutting off damage or single target focusing will let it drop. You can do things like hold back on AoE/splash while Swell is happened, then blow up the adds, then let the debuff drop before the next Swell, or pulling the next Sentry, etc.