Lorewise. You may spend your entire life practicing your craft of warfare, but an equally devoted caster will absolutely clap you. They can lift you off the ground, freeze you, entangle you with roots, etc… and you’re just done.
Imagine having arms the size of tree trunks swinging a huge sword, and then getting deflected 1-handed by Sylvanas’ noodle arm because magic.
Sadly yeah…that or a really skilled marksman takes you out from afar with a gun or arrows while you’re thinking the mage is your problem. Ranged attacks truly are something but I’ve always imagined warriors got strong leg muscles they’d be able to make fast movement and hey the mage can’t cast if they can’t speak no more and the one firing at you can’t shoot without arms. Sure it must be incredibly rough for them but if anything a warrior is one that trains for all situations I’d say. More honor trying than say… well we rogues who sneak up behind our target and poison them while stealing their wallet. Then again we rogues don’t always desire honor…but we can always use money
Little in the way of magic could help any magic user in Warcraft against one as well armed as the Three Eyed King.
I think the writers lack perspective, for every war has need for Warriors and battle Kings for few mages or magic users could match the inspiration of a leader who fights on the front lines.
These miniscule duels between significant characters undermines the strength of what our classes are capable of (in an RP sense from a gaming sense, well…)
Garrosh had the upper hand but stopped to monologue. Good melee stay on ranged like white on rice, I know from painful experience. All he had to do was charge, interrupt and execute.
Saurfang vs Sylvanas doesn’t even count because she was powered up by outside forces.
It all depends on the encounter. If a melee gets caught out at range, they are going to be at a disadvantage. If the melee gets the drop on the range, the range is in trouble if they can’t escape.
Arguing lore is ridiculous and futile. Lore is determined from event to event, situation to situation, and cinematic to cinematic by the devs’ grand spinning wheel of story RNG. They do what they want, and just make it work.
Yes, if they are on the same level, the caster likely will have more advantages. But I doubt a NPC mage or shaman would’ve stood much of a chance against Garrosh.
I do think Garrosh was not as strong as people thought, however. Even his father, I recall how Gul’dan one shot him easily (while Maiev gave a stronger Guldan more fight). Garrosh was lucky he never encountered Jaina after Theramore or Malfurion, we wouldn’t have WOD if that happened.
Ah yes, the guy who fought goldrinn avatar varian head on and Gromm who 1 shotted a pit lord twice are not “as strong as people think”.
Didnt expect much from a elf but wow.
The guy who one shot a Pit Lord with demon blood. Fixed for you.
It’s obviously they are strong. When I talk about “Not as strong” i don’t mean they are NPC level, they are just not in the level of powerhouses such as Malfurion, Jaina, Thrall, Gul’dan, Illidan, etc.
No, Varian wasn’t in the level of these guys either.
Listen to me carefully: I am a human, you are a Human. We are not in Warcraft.
Also, an Elf coincidentally is able to one shot any Orc hero you could bring. So… I don’t know “Elves” are supposed to be lesser when the peak of Elven powers far outclasses the Orc’s, Thrall being possibly the only one who got close. But this personification of races is always funny to me, unless one’s roleplaying of course.