points at the 1.5 civil wars you’ve had Yeah because deposing a mad warchief really costs no lives or resources. It’s totally easy to do.
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Woulda been hella easy to turn on Sylvanas at Lordaeron and killed her 3.5 times until she was permanently dead.
What had she done to justify it at that point? Won a battle for the Horde?
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You do understand that the Horde already has had a method of removing a Warchief that goes too far right? It’s literally the one Saurfang just used, he was just too much of a useless sad sack to do it two years ago.
Sure. And we could have a better method of gang jumping evil folks and ensuring that they can’t be resurrected.
At which point people loyal to the leader gang-jump the gang-jumpers and oh look we have another civil war.
Were massively outnumbered.
Except the people loyal to Sylvanas outnumbered those who opposed her? Also, “Hey, a little civil war is okay, let’s just politically purge all the dissidents to our ideals until we’re the only ones left!”, great system you’ve thought up there dude.
Funny. Weren´t you arguing the exact opposite months ago? About good faith on Blizz storytelling?
How the mighty have fallen…
No. 
I take it you´re happy and satisfied with the incoming Legion-esque expacs that will literally sideline the Horde (sorry, I mean the disccount Alliance)?
To be in so muchy denial just because one already defective character… Don´t you ever dare to complain over lack of former Horde flavored representation from now onwards, I WILL call you on your BS if you do.
You asked for this nightmare and are still blindly celebrating it hoping devs will throw you guys a bone (the foolishness) this 3rd time around, own up to your choices.
No.
What character are you referencing?
What. You have sincerely misread something.
But you´re here fangirling over pseudo Thrall and Sadfang!! You certainly seem quite OK with the narrative conclussion of this expac (Anduin and all!!).
I hope you know what this means from the incoming “Horde” lore …
The two Orc buffoons.
Not misreading dude, just applying logic to the narrative. After 6 expacs we all know how tyhe story is gonna go: incoming “big bad neutral” expacs with Alliance demogods taking charge is the usual… and after the poor reception of BfA I don´t see the culling of Warchief Gallywix anytime soon.
Thrall and Sadfang are awesome. Do you think that someone can’t like aspects of an expansion while also hating the majority?
I don’t know what you’re referencing. What do you think that I’m in denial about in reference to Thrall and Saurfang?
And that needs to stop. I’m super tired of the Horde being no names in Alliance themed expansions. I’ve consistently pointed out that Legion was an Alliance-Only expansion, so I have no ducking idea why you’re coming to me with this preamble.
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Excuse me if I find those two repulsive, repetitive and redundant.
Not to this point unless they have borderline allucination-esque optimist expectatives.
The narrative regression. You think Sadfang´s empty words on a cinematic and getting Thrall back is good, but oh how wrong you are. And you apparently don´t know it yet, which is sadder itself.
Because you fool man naively believe Thrall getting back his old job will magically solve the lack of Horde character development (Droité is the other pathetically naive poster I´ve seen fooling his/herself with this). Guess what, Blizz putting him back on charge is the perfect excuse to relegate the rest of the Horde characters to the development limbo.
Heck, the character STILL hasn´t aknowledge his failures as a Warchief… ergo you wanna bet how fast will he fall into bad habits?
Okay.
Well, I like Thrall and Sadfang. I hate BFA. Don’t know what else to tell you.
We’ve had evil leaders basically back to back. Sure, we “had” Vol’jin, but he didn’t do anything. Thrall’s rad.
I don’t think I’ve commented on it at all in this thread outside of saying that it’s a legitimate problem.
That could be true.
Ah, so you haven’t played the expansion. I can’t blame you; BFA sucks.
His biggest failures as a Warchief weren´t merely his blind devotion to warmongering morons like Grom… it was too his blind devotion to self punishment forcibly put upon his people just because the old generation screwed up (remember Garrosh´s Horde story? Yeah I still hate the brown manchild but the narrative exposed on that short story was actually quite important and relevant).
Thrall WILL overcompensate to the Alliance, mark my words. And this will pave the road to MoP 3.0; the Wallstreet wars feat. Warchief Gallywix
Why? /10char
I like the idea that one can overcome really terrible situations. Thrall was a slave who didn’t let his slavery scar him. He stepped out into the world always willing to lend a helping hand, and smack punks who were otherwise disinclined to leave the orcs be. Then, after MoP and later WoD, Thrall’s really sore about it all and went into hiding. Saurfang smacked some sense into him, and he knows that he can’t do that anymore.
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