Thoughts on Unholy DK on the beta

From a high level, the spec feels great to play, especially with superstrain allowing you to have multiple diseases up on your targets. the class plays pretty similar rotationally to live depending on how you talent, for my dungeons tonight I went left side into festermight, and then middle to superstrain, so I was playing a pretty relaxed, bursting wounds style aoe heavy build.

Some interesting takeaways from tonight:

Clawing shadows absolutely feels like a great key press. Had 20k+ crits tonight, feels much better than pressing it in live where it feels like it does no damage. Epidemic aoe windows are massive, as is clawing shadows when coupled with DnD wound burst. Really feels like the unholy of old in AOE. Cds and no Cds don’t change a ton in aoe either, which feels nice, as I think relying on cds and the direction of wow in general has felt pretty bad in that regard throughout shadowlands.

Fun factor: I’d give it a 9/10, it really flows and with almost all of your cooldowns fitting that 45 second cycle, it seems as though you always have them up in dungeons, so you always have something rotationally interesting to press. For aoe, even outside of cds, attempting to not cap runic power, stack wounds, and pop wounds in DnD window really, for whatever reason, just feels better than live.

I think this spec will do well depending on tuning. For those interested, here’s the dungeon video:

What do you guys think about Unholy?

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If I can play an unholy death knight where I don’t feel like my ghouls are the class and I’m actually the class again I’ll be happy

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this is DEFINITELY what it feels like right now! fingers crossed for tuning

Haven’t watched yet (going to on my lunch break.) Are you going to do Frost as well? Appreciate the shares btw. I saw your warrior one too.

yeah - i will be doing frost as well once they fix runeforging/re-enable addons on the 70 realm.

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Is superstrain actually good now? Cause I always loved that ability but it was always poopy lol.

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It is currently 3 full strength diseases. It’s probable it will be nerfed similarly to Shadowlands, but let’s hope not because it is nice to have more dots.

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I’m worried about this too, but it’s a capstone talent so they can’t gut it too much.

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Hope so, 3 full dots sounds like heaven haha.

Maybe they’ll leave them full strength cause only unholy gets it now as opposed to all 3 specs.

How’s single target looking, specifically stuff like Gargoyle? I keep on hoping for the glory days of Dark Arbiter, but they seem dead set on Gary being borderline unusable in all circumstances.

ST was a little lacking in m+… but man unholy CRACKS in aoe. I tested unholy vs ww after the recent beta changes tonight. with no army of the dead unholy was keeping up/pulling ahead of ww in aoe. that’s a huge feat on beta right now lol

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Vile Contagion feels bad, especially for a 1.5min cooldown.

#1 Does no damage, but is still on the GCD
#2 Can be used without any FW on the target.
#3 Has ZERO visual feedback

Cooldowns that don’t do anything when you press them are generally OFF the GCD, and Vile Contagion qualifies. It also doesn’t do anything at all if you press it and targets die before you get to burst the wounds UNLESS you take Bursting Sores.

So they are going to nerf unholy. Understood.

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no cool new abilities to mess around with just a bunch of old stuff tired of the same festering wounds design

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this ability 100% has synergy w bursting sores. you wouldn’t take it without that talent.

you use it to line up huge DnD scourge strike wound pop burst windows.

although I agree, it should be on a 45second-1minute cooldown

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Fair point

Not good, but that also falls back on the player.

sounds par for the course. Even if something doesnt have a visual feedback some things had audio feedback. Hammer of the Righteous had good visuals and good audio. Now its bland. Very bland.

GW2 Necromancer Epidemic is like this shadowy… explosion? Where it takes all the conditions on your target and puts them on everything else around your target. Then you get numbers everywhere if you stacked your bleeds and torments and had a poison. Looks and feels amazing.

Should be paired with Bursting Sores. Has way too much synergy to ignore it.

I don’t mind the 1.5 min cooldown too much, makes it align really well with unholy assault. 45 seconds would obviously be better but it’s already really strong.

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The design phase is over, we really need you guys who have the beta to champion getting it off the GCD, maybe ask if they can slap the old Pestilence animation onto it for visuals.

I’ll make a post on the PTR forums but I doubt they get much notice.

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the old pestilence style animation would be very cool tbh.

i’ll throw in a ticket next time im on beta.

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Curious about this. How does Superstrain feel great other than just applying more debuffs?

I want a disease based build to be possible (it kind of is?), but I also want interactivity with that build and not just one button press (Outbreak) that does everything.