Thoughts on Healing

Just wondering how everyone feels about healing. I’m ilvl 615 and tried my first +10 completed it but hps on AOE has been a bit rough all season feels like a lot of AOE damage going out on top of dispell, afflix, mechanics.

The problem with healing to me right now feels like it’s more about how your group plays then my ability to carry or be strong. Also I do think it’s probably the worst role in the game to play but other than that hasn’t been too bad.

I only think of heals when I notice my health is below 30% or I am dead.

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It has never been so stressful as it is now.

And it’s funny because both healers and tanks are the most sought after roles because very few people wants to play them so ofc blizzard choice was to nerf tanks and overwhelm healers so it’s even worse.

I’ve been only playing healer since BFA, its the most enjoyable for me but i tend to burn out often and chill for a few weeks then come back

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What healer are you playing?

I don’t find it hard to heal when a group does interrupts, or doesn’t screw stuff up.

My shaman usually has around 25-30 interrupts a run plus totem and thunderstorm interrupts, so it makes it much easier from what it needs to heal per group than my priest that just has to pump hps.

Ive healed 10s on Monk shaman priest and preservation

I used to heal but grew tired of it over the last 20 years.
I used to tank but grew tired of that over the last 20 years.

Now I am dps. Big deal if I am queue for 10 - 20 mins – I do other things while waiting.

My guild asked me to heal for raids – nope - not gonna but thanks for asking - pure dps and have been since SL.

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Sometimes I think to myself, right after death, “freaking heals, man. where’s the heals?”

Then I look at the frames and see half the raid is almost dead, healers haven’t even time to heal themselves, usually a mess is happening. Then I think, Man, I’m glad I didn’t share that knee-jerk reaction."

Then I think about how I was mostly likely standing in something or next to a cleave.

Then I appreciate the hard work healers take on, like complete psychopaths.

Now, when the fan gets hit and it’s “go time” I heal the healer.

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Ive been healing on my monk, pally and druid and noticed a common theme.

If the group does their interupts, don’t stand in bad, and the tank doesn’t crazy pull four/five packs at a time, i have smooth runs and nobody dies.

If any combination of the above goes awry, im popping every CD trying to keep people alive and/or i look/feel like a useless healer.

I literally run the same level content on the same healers and have wildly different outcomes depending on the people in the group.

Going to be honest, i have more problems with tanks pulling half the dungeon at once than i have with DPS failing mechanics.

Its always the tanks in the biggest hurry that cause the longest runs.

I am 610 and can’t get into +2s, even when I make my own group lol.

yes, a much nicer way to say what i said in my own thread a few days ago…
We healers are not here to hold the dps’ hands. You need to learn the mechanics, you the dps not you the op, and you need to do your job like interrupting or using your CC.

Too many dps absolutely lack this skill and it makes it impossible to get groups going for most people. My key, their key, doesn’t matter. One bad invite and your key is wasted and you have to try all over again wasting another hour to form yet another group.

yup and half the time they are just standing in the aoe and expect us to fix it for them by healing them through it so they can parse.

Again, I can barely even get into a +2, so maybe invite me lol. I would love to come heal a group with people who actually know what they are doing.

lol 610 in M+10 but another 610 can’t get into 2s, which leads to me not having rating which means no invites which leads to no rating which leads to no invites…And even when I use my own key, 9/10 times it doesn’t matter if I dps or heal, somebody is going to just leave over the slightest of provocations.
Already “lost” 5 keys just in the past couple of weeks because the tank leaves because dps wont interrupt or because the healer is somehow supposed to heal through being feared because no interrupts while the party is constantly getting dropped by like 85% hp with just one hit…

I’ve mained a healer every season since Shadowlands season 2 (except DF S1) and yeah, I can’t really think of another time when M+ healing was as stressful as it is now.

Even the “easy” keys like Dawnbreaker, I’m coming out of a +10 averaging 8-900k HPS.

It’s a continuation of the push to have DPS use their defensives to mitigate damage (but unless it’s a 1-shot, if they don’t it just falls back on the healer to deal with) and the fact that the TWW dungeons seem to have eighty bajillion caster mobs that all need to be interrupted, but also some uninterruptable casts that absolutely wreck people (like the Corruptors in the last hallway of GB; may as well not even try and just let the player die if their defensives are down on a Fortified week)

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I’m not a healer but I’d agree with this. Me living or dying is just as, or in many cases, more dependent on me properly using defensives as your ability to heal me. If I’m not doing my defensive rotation properly your role is largely pointless.

Seems like a super bad spot. From my perspective I hate everything about it. Defensives should be rewarding situational experiences, not a required part of my rotation unless I’m a tank.

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The same as always. Your group either plays the game correctly or they die. No rot damage or unavoidable damage feels unfair

i’m actually having a lot of fun healing, but admittedly i’m playing resto shaman which is stupid good this season. i plan to heal to ksm on another character though, just haven’t figured out what to play yet

It’s fun but too stressful atm. Incoming damage is too spiky. Healer balance is also abysmal as a result – if your healing spec can’t top the entire group quickly then people just die. And too much of the group’s survivability is in stopping casts and pressing defensives.

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I haven’t really enjoyed healing since post-Shadowlands. It became way more stressful than fun in Dragonflight, even around the +10 level pre-squish, and that has not changed and seems to have gotten worse in TWW.

I understand that healing difficulty largely depends on the group at least as much as the actual content, but its gotten worse over the last couple of expansions.

Raid Healing is still fine, but Raiding is just a lot less relevant on a day to day basis than M+ is.

I don’t think I’ll return to healing above +5s or so for a long time.

I agree. The difficulty of healing has been mostly been based on my group’s performance. Tanks overpull, dps don’t interrupt, dps overlap interrupts/stops (I don’t blame dps for this entirely), mechanics aren’t followed, affixes like orbs spawning at impossible times (mid flight 1st boss on dawnbreaker), not having an interrupt myself (rip being priest rn), and so much more. I’ve had great pugs and horrible ones. This has been the first season where I find tanking to be less stressful than healing.

What they did was make the onus on group success more on the group, and less on the tank and healer. This means we don’t have the power to save massive screw ups like we did in the past. You can still carry poor players and fix a few mistakes, but its a lot less then we were able to.

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i want to heal so bad, more than anything, i miss it terribly, i wish i played it more before they reworked and ruined everything :frowning: hoping and praying they revert to pre-df healing system every day that i play because in addition to the horrible m+ system rework (yeah i enjoyed df system because it was FUN who cares if elitists think it was too easy). but this system isn’t it and hasn’t been for a while :frowning:

Healing is still a blast Iock! Still as dynamic as its been. Just understand that sometimes you can’t heal through some mistakes and you’ll be ok.

i’ve tried everything and i love how the healers play, i really do, but the numbers don’t feel there and it feels like more of a stressful slog than DF, i just wish i could like it but i can’t :frowning: