- Blizzard tech balances shard population so there’s the same amount of Horde and Alliance.
- 5 man Alliance groups go to a popular questing point and camp it for kills for their weekly ilvl 400 piece (equivalent to drops from a +10, or 2100-2399 rating, or Heroic raiding)
- Solo Horde players are scattered throughout the area doing world quests and getting ganked repeatedly.
Blizzard and Alliance think:
A. It’s fine since the populations are balanced in that shard despite the fact that the Alliance population is concentrated into very small areas and Horde is spread out
B. Horde should group up like Alliance and fight them despite having no incentive to do so. Essentially a giant waste of time and not realistic to expect anyone to do.
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You did this to us all 8.0 long, why do you complain? A taste of your own medicine stings huh? What’s worse, you camped us 40v1 in 8.0. Your lucky they limited the quest to 5 person party.
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Both factions did this in 8.0, so idk what the issue is.
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Eastern Kingdoms. Knows how to party! Elwynn Forest! Knows how to par-a-ty! In the cityyyyyy…city of Stormwind! Keep on rocking! Keep on rocking!
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I kept WM for the chance for getting the Aspirant season 1 gear because I liked the color, and I was hoping to improve my PvP skills. Now that season 2 is in effect I turned it back off.
The difference is Horde did not have extra incentive to do it. They did it because they wanted to PvP. Also Horde did not get a gear advantage from doing it. Do people really not see this, or are they being purposely obtuse?
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I kept WM on without boring game
The situation you have painted IS fine. However, the situation I see frequently is a million Alliance camping the entire invasion area.
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Lies, the alliance were not forming 40 man raid groups and ruining what the war mode was intended for, a new way to pvp and get bonus loots for completing quests while doing so. You may not have done it yourself, but go back to threads from launch and see all the horde raids that just annihilated alliance, didn’t bother to even do a quest because how could you, you are in a raid. Then proceed to taunt us with that awesome “GIT GOOD” mantra.
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You would think that self worth and faction pride would be enough to fight back an enemy. I get ganked? I’m trying to take as many as possible
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this, this is kinda the problem, I bet if they put 5 man groups with 5 man groups of the opposing faction on the same shards together alliance wouldn’t be quite as happy about this quest.
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Honestly, I love when the horde rallies and comes back at us. Makes it interesting and worth the effort. And my group usually likes to go for the horde settlements instead of slowwwwwly camping the same player over and over at a wq or fp
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Horde did get an advantage with the warfront. If you read these forums at all by the time we got 370 gear you were all decked out in heroic gear (according to so many horde posters). Wanting to pvp in a 40 man raid group around flight paths is the spirit of war mode right? Guess what heroic raiding is available right now! You can get your 400 gear again just like soooo many have posted since you are so much superior than the alliance. One piece of to quote you all “welfare gear” shouldn’t tip the scales really should it?
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It absolutely is not. It’s the same thing as imbalanced servers just on a smaller scale lol. This situation is artificially created by Alliance players being incentivized with ilvl 400 gear.
Everything about this is a complete mess. They’ve handled this and the warfront gear so poorly since expansion launch.
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If the Horde don’t the nerve to group up and defend themselves in the first place, then what makes you think that 5v5 shards (as moronic as that sounds) will work out any better?
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As someone who for the past few weeks regularly gets Horde groups together to engage in WPvP, there are a few issues:
1.) No real incentive for Horde to defend. Honor gain is minimal unless there’s a bounty, which takes a lot of time to spawn.
2.) Broken sharding and abuse that leads to Ally groups just fleeing to another shard when Horde groups resist (this probably happens vise-versa as well but I wouldn’t know)
3.) Insane lag that happens that makes big time WPvP battles almost impossible to win if you’re the attacker trying to reclaim an area.
All those need to be addressed first.
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OH RIGHT, we should TOTALLY rally and fight you for no incentive while YOU get heroic-level-loot out of it. It’s the same thing.
You honestly don’t see the problem because you are on the opposite end of it. The amount of alliance massed at every single world quest hub is ridiculous.
“just turn warmode off”
Don’t worry, 90% of my friends already have. I’m not far off from doing this myself. I hope enough of us do so you lose your precious free loot and WQ bonus.
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I don’t know how to feel about this response.
I’m laughing so hard because this is literally what an Alliance player would say when wm wasn’t balanced.
But also that’s pretty sad.
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Alliance did the same thing as the Horde. I came across Alliance raids on my Horde toons and Horde raids on my Alliance toons all the time. I came from a PvP realm so it was nothing new for me. Just because Alliance didnt brag about it doesn’t mean they didn’t do it (unless you count Anduins Knights).
I’m sure it’s hard adjusting to what a PvP realm was like.