This is how to disable Spy, Blizz

You say that…

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/spy-classic

As for this moment it has 698,577 users.

If there are only 2 million players in Classic WoW (according to the census data) that’s 34.9% of the WoW population that has the addon installed.

Not everyone is on a PVP server, so we can safely assume that a higher % of the players on PVP servers utilize this Vs the PVE servers who’re less likely to use it.

I know the rogues hate spy for their reasons, but I loath it because it’s providing arena frames to the UI that were specifically removed from the default UI because it was considered against the spirit of Classic WoW.

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What if you get off the forums and level to 60?

…instead of complaining about getting ganked? Funny how you say “grow a pair” but you post on the forums, crying about being ganked lol.

“I just explained what it is. It’s a measurement of just how cowardly and frustrated a ganker is. If they just tank once and move on, it’s safe to say they’re just venting a little. If they camp gank, they probably have serious at home issues or something of that sort.” - something you posted recently

Grow a pair bro.

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Right, so you’re totally not gonna pvp when Battlegrounds comes out, thus circumventing the challenges of playing on a PvP server. So you’re playing on EZ mode.

As much as DBM is a crutch for PvE; it’s your own fault if you willfully gimp yourself by not using either.

Stealth on a dock and walk onto the boat.

Stop being a terrible rogue.

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Actually I try to not participate in PvP as much as possible. It’s a waste of time as far as I’m concerned. I have spy installed and I’m on a PvE server. Even on a PvE server tho you can accidentally get flagged. I don’t get ganked, they hafta face me or slink off like the spineless wretches they are. Thanks to Spy !

I know I posted earlier to look up how. Still its not a thing, to me. But OPs suggestion could kill it. Bliz wont.

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What if you are already on the boat and cross zones? And it re-stealths you when you change continents? And, by doing so, alerts your presence to all.

Ever think of that? Or is that too big brain for you?

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Enjoy it while it lasts becuase it will be disabled sooner or later.

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Then that’s a bad place to try to gank people.

Sorry that stealth isn’t as much of a auto gank button as you want it to be.

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come on guys i need spy so i can prepare myself to corpse run

That would be awful… I mean you’d have to fight like a man… instead of a gutless wonder… it’s just terrible !

That’s kinda the problem with spy it provides so much an advatnage that if you don’t use it you’re gimping your self.

If addons like spy that provide features that are not default to the game were simply not possible then game play would be a lot more interesting because the skill of the individual would shine a lot more brightly.

Paying attention to the surroundings and watching for incoming players is part of that… When you have an addon effectively eliminating that component of PVP you’re in a way proving you’re a crap player if you “NEED” that feature.

Great and even good players do not need these things, but if great and good players are using these things then it becomes required.

Further these kind of features widen the gap between those who know about them and those who dont.

If you truly NEED an addon to play vs those who don’t then you’re bad; simple as that.

That’s the point most people are making here, addons while nice should not be something required to play a video game.

Providing information in a more handy way, that’s fine. EXAMPLES of what I am actually talking about are moving the buff / debuff location into a more visible spot…

Providing estimated cast bars (not actual) (just like the present classic addons do)

Providing a UI with Arena frames is massive and NOT a component of the default UI in an way…

Some idiot is about to post “read the combat log” .

If you are that focused on your combat log that you’re reading all that data… You will be utterly destroyed.

“read the combat log” is the worst most pathetic argument ever.

If the combat log is providing information about players you’re not even in combat with… This is a problem that Blizzard ought to address.

Should we be able to see information that the default UI does not present?

Simply the answer is HELL NO.

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Your emotions betray you paladin. You are a disgrace to your cause.

You mean:

”sorry that stealth isn’t as it was in Vanilla, and it is not how it was designed to be, due to rampant use of modern day feature added to the game. Learn to change the way you play your class to adapt to the changes that classic has brought and that is different from vanilla.”

There…fixed it for you.

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if you guys honestly need spy deleted to pvp as a rogue then i feel bad for you

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I honestly think people that say this are living in bizzaro world, because its actually just the opposite.

If you guys honestly need spy to pvp vs people who don’t then i feel bad for you.

Unfortunately Spy includes what are effectively arena frames and when 30% of the players have arena frames you are now required to have them to compete.

END of story.

Well I see it as an anti-coward device. I don’t really care what the cowards think…

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/atlaslootclassic

AtlasLootClassic has 7 million downloads. Downloads does not = users. That download count includes every single updated version that is downloaded.

Boomer trying to win an argument against me, lol.

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All paladin and warriors think range classes and rogues are cowards.