No island grinding.
No Azerite trait garbage.
No neck level garbage.
No benthicc lotto for sockets.
No titanforging making you feel pressured to farm low ilv content for a 1/1000 chance at tf + socket.
No essence reputation farming garbage.
No corruption farming garbage.
Instead of 1 choice in the M+ box, you get 3.
Instead of 1 choice in the PvP box, you get 3.
You now have a PvP vendor. You can upgrade PvP gear.
You can now upgrade M+ gear so you don’t have to farm the same item at +15 forever.
It’s so much better. You all are crazy for even THINKING that this is worse than BoFAh.
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it is 100x times better than bfa but I have no friends to play with now, in BFA I had many that’s why some people “misses” BFA
corruption wasn’t that bad outside pvp
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Sadly, that’s also due to BFA (at least in my experience). BFA was so bad that people I liked playing with didn’t even try slands. 
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That ain’t a tall hill to climb.
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I mean BfA didnt exactly set a high bar…
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Was I the only one that liked visions?
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5 mask was fun the first couple times. It lost it’s charm after the 100th run or so.
Getting sockets for all slots and +% verse III on all slots ruined visions.
It also made it so making an alt was impossible.
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Too early to call.
At this point in BfA I thought it was amazing. Super cool story and fun raid, and I was having a blast dominating raids on Survival Hunter…
But… then the rest of the expac dragged on…
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Not by a long shot. BFA was a far better game launch to first .1 patch then SL, SL is hands down the absolute worst expansion launch to date. Also some of your expamples are at the end of BFA, lets take a step back and see the fact that SL is already in a worse state and we dont even have 9.1 yet which is already looking to add plenty of more BS…
No island grinding. --> replaced with less rewarding more time consumingTorghast / Maw grinding
No Azerite trait garbage. — > replaced with worse Conduit system
No neck level garbage - --> replaced with lack of Gear
No benthicc lotto for sockets. – Replaced with a horrible MAW grind for sockets
No titanforging making you feel pressured to farm low ilv content for a 1/1000 chance at tf + socket. - replaced with WAY LESS Gear and way more RNG
No essence reputation farming garbage - replaced with some of the worst WQ grinding for rep to date , awful anima grinding etc - also keep in mind those came later into the Expansion, more systems to come in 9.1
No corruption farming garbage - More system to come in later patches , but conduits etc are easily just as painful of a grind, plus you got to Farm legendarys and soul ash…
Instead of 1 choice in the M+ box, you get 3 - only if you grind a ton of dungeons other wise its still just 1 bland option and still awful RNG and provides little to no better improved loot options, also less loot drops from dungeons too.
Instead of 1 choice in the PvP box, you get 3 - Locked to Competitive PVP only
You now have a PvP vendor. You can upgrade PvP gear. - only good improvement but could change in 9.1
You can now upgrade M+ gear so you don’t have to farm the same item at +15 forever - gated behind bs achievements and M+ isn’t player friendly thanks to Raider io and the meta competitive design of it.
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Nop I would rather play BFA all over again. Welcome to WOD 2.0.
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No… This expansion is pure garbage so far. I quit in legion after being here since “vanilla” and thought that was the worst. The dev team is beyond out of touch from their player base and continues to make stupid (non subjective) choices that ruin the game play for everyone. Nice try at white knighting (you’re doing it wrong).
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8.3 was far better than this. But I wasn’t there for 8.0, so I can’t comment on that.
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Lost its charm after the first 3 runs I did. Not first 3 masked runs, just first 3 runs in general.
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It’s their opinion to have though. Not sure where I’d place SL but it definitely isn’t a good xpac in my eyes.
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It’s a deep ditch to climb out of though.
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So far it’s about the same as BFA for me. Which is just at the bottom of the expansion chain (even below WoD).
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Welcome to WOD 2.0.
What a stupid thing to say. This isn’t even close to the level of incompetence that came with WoD.
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Most expansions for the past several (pretty much back to mop), don’t get good until the final patch. Class balance gets finalized (not perfect tho) and all the purposely withheld QoL implementations are in the game cause the content isn’t worth anything at that point for people who did it the hard way or cause the population’s interest dropped. The grinds still exist but there aren’t diminishing returns on binge behavior nor are there nagging engagement loops/distractions in the game to make your grind feel worse. As a good example for this last point, have you ever done the battery charging event on mechagon? Blizzard gameplay these days is pretty much demonstrated easily with that one event.
- Have to wait for something to be up.
- Have to pay a cover to engage into it.
- Have to maintain participation on it (channel the battery).
- But while you are doing that get attacked/harangued by things to impede your progress which wouldn’t have happened without the first 2 things.
- And the event only lasts for X amount of time.
- And if you are late you have to pay extra while enduring all of the above.
- And needing to do this repeatedly cause the things you are making are needed for many other things.
Genuine garbage gameplay.
Genuinely hate expansion launches. All of it is a perfectly crafted honeymoon designed to make people not notice/care for the obvious lacking things people requested in alpha/beta.
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