This game's community is too divided

The more and more that I have been reading the forums and generally trying to get an idea of what people in this community do and don’t want in this game, the more that I realize trying to appeal to everyone is a fruitless endeavor.

It doesn’t matter what they do or what they add: for some people it is either never enough or it shouldn’t have done at all, while for others it is the complete opposite. And the problem is that this situation ends up feeling way too common with multiple similar topics being brought up on the forums with passionate responses to either side of a conflict.

To make matters worse, there’s rarely any room for nuance, it’s always either all or nothing. Generally, it feels like nuanced opinions that do get posted get relatively ignored because people seemingly want to choose a side to give all of their attention to, but this doesn’t solve problems.

Blizzard keeps stating that they read the forums and look to see what players are wanting, but when I read the forums, I usually end up wondering how any meaningful conclusion can be reached from what is given, because things keep devolving into what is essentially two comically exaggerated strawman arguments being thrown against each other.

If a new feature comes up that has the community split, we should be coming together to discuss and find the right balance, because if they are telling the truth and are looking for feedback, our goal should be to decide what the most people can agree with so that it can be more easily understood and addressed.

I want this game to grow, improve, and just generally be the best version of itself that it can be, and I’m sure most here want this as well, but the way things are here doesn’t feel like the right way to do this.

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This game is not gonna grow for many reasons.

It had a great run though.

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You’ll go crazy trying to understand what people want when they themselves don’t even really know. I’d stop paying any attention to the complaining. There’s really no sense to it what so ever.

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They have never said that they take feedback from the forums. They have said the opposite.

There certainly are people who believe that the game should be dramatically shrunk down in playerbase size by catering exclusively to one narrowly defined demographic. Of course, at that point the game would not be an MMO anymore, as all successful MMOs reach their massive player numbers by appealing to different types of players, especially casuals, who outnumber hardcores by a lot.

By the time a new feature or system is introduced to the playerbase, it is already too late to change it. Blizzard is obligated to its investors to do whatever it takes to avoid dumpster fire expansions like shadowlands. They need to identify target demographics and find out what will keep them playing and paying. They have failed to do this in a decade. Market research is a thing they appear to have avoided.

I disagree!

And here is the distillation of what some people say. Disagreement just for the sake of conflict, aka trolling.

1st mistake right there

No it’s not.

DIVERSITY OF OPINION IS A GOOD THING!!!

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The forums are not an accurate depiction of the playerbase.

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The opinions we see expressed in the forum are also seen in-game. However, the proportions may not be equivalent.

I am not interested in ‘coming’ together given that the raider only andies demand my content be lesser or outright removed because somehow what I am doing that doesn’t involve them makes them feel bad.

They’ve made their choice, There can be no peace.

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You seem too emotionally invested OP. This game is 18 years old, it had its day.

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The main reason is the lack of “fun”.

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CAREFUL…you’ll get censored and silenced!
The wow un-intelligencia is watching…
ALTERNATE OPINIONS ARE VERBOTEN…
That’s the wow community…And why it’s
diminishing into the mmo sunset.

Yall want to be victims so bad lmao

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Yet everyone is still here… sounds like a balance stricken?

Darren’s and Karen’s vs. White Knights; nothing if not entertaining.

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Didn’t you just make a thread about being ‘censored’… stay true to yourself!

It wouldn’t matter if they created a game everyone liked, as they’d surely soon change it to something many didn’t.

Don’t blame the community for the companies failings, of which there have been many. In WoD Blizzard charged headlong into a flying fiasco completely of their own making, and they were the ones that ended up with head damage. Time and time again they ignore feedback and create problems that could have been avoided if they weren’t so pig-headed.

Not much of a division. The forums are overrun with demented demanding children “pretending” to be racist garbage.

The Devs listened to the community once; when the causals threatened to leave if they did not get epics… they got the epics and still left.

Since then, the Devs have stopped listening to this community. And rightly so.

This community has become an overbearing temperamental lunatic that demands Blizzard forces other players to play a very specific way.

It’s a video game to the sane. It’s a channel to fulfill twisted hopes and dreams to some of the most mentally unhinged people on this planet.

Blue hair has triggered these deplorables. The color of hair.

Yup.

I don’t know what this means, but sounds like someone just got taken to the cleaners. …they had blue hair.

Tell that to Eve online the biggest mmo currently going and has been for the last 7 years. It doesnt cater to casuals at all