This comment scared me away from playing monk. Is it true?

Asked about rolling a monk for pvp on Reddit, someone said this : This underperform in pve. They are the worst performing melee on warcraft logs even lower then dks and feral druids. Staying above 40k dps is a challenge for your average player with a 440+ gear set.

They require the conflict and strife essence for raids and pvp and that is completed through rated rbg aand arena content which could take months to complete for players that cant consistently hit 1600.

In pvp they have decent damage and mobility but if your pugging arenas most healers would prefer a plate melee partner or a cloth caster.

In mythic+ they have decent burst and good aoe uptime for pulls but setting up a 5 stack spinning crane kick and keeping it at 5 isnt much fun. Their survivability cooldowns are very good and they have something for magic or physical situations.

Out in the world with mobility and a 430+ ilevel soloing most things feels great. You have speed with tigers lust and flying serpent kick along with rolls to get quests done rapidly and against basic mobs two and three shotting things feels good.

Personally I have a big problem with their transmog. Outside of the legion sets everything looks stupid. Ive been complimented on my transmog before from other people and they have said basically the same thing, they cant figure out any combinations they like either. I have about 3 sets I rotate between and basically have everything except mythic legion and any set that required gladiator. Its kind of sad when I look at all the stuff I like on my paladin, hunter, and warlock.8

The class is really punishing losing your buff for going out of turn in a rotation so getting a rotation helper or weak aura package though annoying would be really helpful.

I think why I dislike mine and look to transition to a rogue is they are a ramp class that pops cooldowns on jump but gets punished internally for rotational mistakes outside of mechanics. It seems like everyone can push buttons and make themselves better while monks need to build up stacks of hit combo and spinning crane kick to feel better.

It might sound like I really hate the class and its a bit of a love hate relationship. Ive gotten great gear and pve progression as well as gladiator on my monk playing both ww and mw but I just feel theyre mediocre as a whole. Mw arent sought after much in pve and in pvp they are outshined by druids and paladins. As a brewmaster they are the best tanks with the most complicated mitigation, if thats your thing. Ww is getting buffed but I havent heard of anything that makes me excited playing them in the next tier. If you decide to continue good luck.

The dmg is tied too much to our touch of death. Then after it we just dip until the next touch. The problem is if the encounter doesnt end as close to your last touch as possible our ending dmg will be terrible comparably to the other specs.
In m+ we are very strong the 5 man bosses die quick enough that I am never out matched at the very least for single target and king at aoe. However you do need to hit revered with rustbolt for the cyclotroninc blast for your burst.

In pvp we require a bit more assistance from our partners to do dmg pressure. So you need a healer with good cc or extra dmg or combo of both.

3’s we have several comps that are actually pretty strong. And as for our mogs most of it only looks good on dwarf or human. For myself, I like my naked bear man mog.

But overall we are probably one of the most fun specs. Our only issue is raid single target.

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The damage is tied too much on azerite and essences. I mean unless you top of the top, monks are fine. JFunk puts it in perspective as he’s the topish WW.

Its alot rougher for the WW as they just cant spam the same button like other classes, 8.3 Blizz is ‘trying’ to fix the single target dps. Problem is they have so much going on they could be either top or bottom depending if you push the same button twice.

Thats why his top parses are all with cyclotroninc blast, he is doing perfect or near perfect parses barely beating people who are in the low 80s.

Ww is far from fine in raid situations. There are several kills I saw that someone was with a 21 who was with 7k from him.

You are judging things off an outlier

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His conflict and strife essence is usually top and he’s usually top 4-7 in his raid group, if you dont have that essence rank 3 you pretty much garbage, thats how powerful one essence is. But I havent watched him in awhile, so things might have changed. But for us that arent top dogs, yeah WW arent very good single target in Mythic content.

I just looked at all his top parses and he doesnt have conflict in his major slot. He is using condensed.

And he is barely beating people with his 99 that are doing 80s. And the people that are doing in the 90s are smoking him

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The major isn’t the huge part it’s the passive and almost permanent versatility buff from the minor trait.