I would love to see the game progress and to have them release BC, Wrath, etc.
However, I would only want this if a few things were left out. I don’t want to see flying (or at least limit it to only BC areas), no LFR/LFD.
Thought of another, Mythic+ or anything that promotes speed running. I would rather have the instances hard.
What else should be left out?
So you want them to progress, but you don’t want them to release things that were core aspects of that progression.
I don’t want them adding the things that killed the game.
During TBC you could only fly in Outland.
Correct but it was updated in Cata
My point is that if they did do TBC it would likely not have flying in Azeroth for “authenticity.”
Flying killed the game so hard its been going on as one of the most popular MMOs for over a decade. Just like LFD, LFR, easier leveling, Mythics…
I understand that you liked vanilla WoW and that’s fine. But you can’t progress the game while not adding things that were important to that progression. Flying in particular was a core aspect of TBC and several future expansions, with multiple areas only accessible through flying. Keeping it out of the game is actively detrimental to the design of those expansions.
The better solution is to have servers that are frozen in one era of WoW, while other servers are opened that progress through content. Everyone is happy. But that’s highly reliant on Classic being popular and profitable, neither of which are guaranteed.
I think since we are in the future we now realize how detrimental some of those features were. I don’t see how they can be removed unless they made paths to spots that could only be reached by flying. Lfr/lfd can easily be removed though.
What even is this thread? LFR is cata, flying in Azeroth is cata, LFD came in wotlk so yeah that’s only valid change you can say no to.
No flying even in outland i think is the point. Flying is bad mmkay.
Outland is built for flying though, you’ll have trouble reaching spots with no flying, some being impossible to reach. Such as fire elementals in Nagrand, Tempest Keep…
That’s why my previous comment says they’d have to put in paths to spots that could only be reached by flying.
Alright, well on topic of what I’d change.
Wotlk:
Tune up raids a bit, tune down ToC dungeon loot to normal heroic dungeon ilvl to keep Naxx and Ulduar relevant, tune down FoS/PoS/HoR to Naxx25 ilvl at highest as minor catchup.
So without flying you can’t reach… the netherwing ledge, tempest keep, and the elemental plateau… even though I think you can get to the plateau on foot but I could be wrong.
Just put flight masters in that fly there problem solved
Sha’tari skyguard area as well… and Ogrilla but honestly lmao who tf wants to do those.
or. hear me out, don’t change it and leave it how it was?
The funny thing is I suspect Blizzard would agree with the people who don’t want flying. They’ve been pretty open about how they regret adding it to the game, hence why we have the awkward compromise of Pathfinder since WoD.
But it was an important part of those early expansions. As for later features like LFD/LFR and so forth, I hate to tell you but people enjoy different aspects of WoW and how the game has changed over the years. You can’t #nochanges vanilla and then start demanding later expansions change to suit your tastes.
I think people are over exaggerating the importance of flight in tbc… you literally only needed flying so you could get attuned to karazhan. I don’t think 60% flying was the issue… it was the 280%.
There’s no denial that with each expansion WoW went further and further away from it’s base, which was Classic, TBC didn’t go too far, only flying, WotlK added catchup, cata LFR, each expansion added something trashy.
You needed it to reach Tempest Keep and get to the Sha’tari Skyguard quests, which were a huge part of money making in TBC. I believe Elemental Plateau was only accessible by flying. Netherwing dailies as well.
Pretty much this.
I enjoyed flying in outland during TBC (and was fine with not having it when I went back to “the world.”), LFD actually made me sub to wrath because prior to that doing a dungeon meant getting a capped character to crack it for you while you sat back and watched. Maybe it’s had negative ramifications over time, but at that time, it sounded like a great idea. I say bring on a BC and a wrath Classic with the same criteria, #nochanges. If they removed LFD from wrath knowing now what it does to the game, I personally wouldn’t care, but for the record at the time that was actually a draw to a casual player like myself.