by forcing i mean basicaly removing a whole zone (STV) from people because of pvp, also the ashenvale “event” is the same way. I know , “you can opt out”, true, but there are always, i mean always people that will find a way to grief you if your just trying to do some quests in the area, and then you are told, if you don’t want pvp don’t be here. As far as weapons, it is unfortunate that the devs made crafting useless.
“stop forcing pvp on pvers”
So i guess the whole fight for silithus and AQ on top of controlling the towers in the pluaglands was skipped over in your head? They forced PVP on PVE’ers in classsic as well my guy, its basically the same. even have cenarion rep and rewards just like STV.
it sounds like you need to take advantage of the PVP to PVE server transfer.
Ain’t nobody getting ganked inside SM cath bro, lol.
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That’s not a positive. We play PvP servers so that PvP encounters happen.
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I always play pvp servers and aways will. Don’t say its the same thing, because its not. That was the point.
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I’ll respond point by point. 1-the whole point of the game was to go out and explore (discover), meet people form groups and friendships even build guilds and to be social. Not to mention to learn your charachter and how to play it. By making it possible to level and get gear in just hours, a day at most. People where forced down this route or get left behind and never get in to any groups let alone any raids.
2-If your not experiencing a bad economy it’s obvious you are one of the people that took advantage of the massive influx of gold that the devs allowed.
3-Dou you play SoD? the patterens you are talking about come from end game (end phase?) raids that are better then anything crafted, and on your way to gearing for raids, you get the gear from incursions, viscious circle there. Crafting is irrevelent .
4- you miss the point entirely,i’m talking about literaly taking away whole zones from pve, i.e. the Ashenvale and STV “events”. Yes you can opt out, but you can and will still get griefed by pvp’rs, so you just skip the entire zones because of this, and be honest, you stopped doing dungeons except maybe princess runs after level 25, you get all your gear from incursions and pvp rep rewards.
5- The vast majority of people that play mmporgs and in this case WoW, are casual pve’rs always has been. Every class balance change is because what ever flavor of the month class is dominating in pvp. Any class imbalance needed for pve comes from the elitist parsing crowd that is pvping when there not sweating over there keyboard.
Bro always out here white knighting incursions lmao
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you miss the point entirely,i’m talking about literaly taking away whole zones from pve, i.e. the Ashenvale and STV “events”
Sorry, am I missing something? did the AQ event not fill the entire zone with PVP and griefing content there making questing just as much of a pain? Did Barnabee not make an entire series off it? what about the COUNTLESS others that made PVP content? Are we all just not remembering the same exact thing the same exact way correctly, hmm?? But wait, now your telling me its in SOD with a different location and at a different level cap, hmm?
welcome to classic my guy. Again it sounds like you would be happier on a PVE server, but hey what do I know.
Nobody forced you to not quest.
New dev team.
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Farming SM at least required some minimal, very minimal interactions. Some button pressing. Some mouse movement. And the gear in general wasn’t the best. Incursions you can do completely mounted run in a circle and right click of a few times. On top of that, you got great gold, great exp, and great gear. You basically had nothing to do once you did incrusions until max level because they were that good.
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I’ll admit this is a problem for sure. But that’s not really the fault of the content, it’s the fault of Blizzard giving “starter PvP gear” in a game without PvP stats. Blizzard kneejerk reacted to Phase 2 burst damage by handing out PvP gear designed to slow down the pace of combat without realizing people could use it to skip pre-BIs. That on top of making the ST gear from the raid bad…
All of these things aren’t the fault of the gameplay of outdoor repeatable content.
yeah i’m not saying the idea was bad, just the implementation of it.
The implementation changed the entire game. We just went from classic wow season of discovery to everything classic players hate about retail. That fast.
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You can’t always get full bis. That’s just how the game works.
SM was 100% better than incursions.
You can try new strategies for bigger pulls. One of my favorites was getting Library down to 10 minute clears with a mage pulling houndmaster and everyone ducking in a cubby to stack for AoE.
Also, in dungeons healers and tanks have to pay attention. In incursions everyone shuts their brain off.
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I fixed your autocorrect for you.
This post is pretty good, gotta agree with all points, they should definitely bring gdkps back too, incursions did 100000x more damage to the economy then gdkps ever could.
There I fixed it for you.