They Wanted to Kick Him Because He Didn't Talk, Then His Mom Messaged Me

[Elissawe-draka (Elissawe)]

A lot of communities would probably like several, many of which would be unrepeatable here.

[Myzrym-area-52]

@Ironbonez-area-52

the leaver penalty makes sense in M+ where people are abusing it for mechanical reasons, but not in anything below that.

There is no leaver penalty in M+.

[Oniana-lightnings-blade (Oniana)]

It’s like calling the cops IRL, whoever calls them first wins lol

[Mourneclaw-lightbringer]

You just sound like the other face of the same coin, though.

[Qwaterpound-area-52]

@Crithappenz-ghostlands

I was in a group to do a dungeon and we had one of those people that just talks and talks. He kept asking the tank questions and the tank never said a word. Then I get a whisper from the talky person saying we ought to kick this tank because he doesn’t say anything. I don’t reply, because I’m busy dps’ing for one thing and I thought the idea was stupid as we were doing fine in the dungeon. Next thing I know there is a vote to kick him out and boom he’s gone. I felt bad about it, so I whispered to the kicked player that I was sorry and to tell them I did not vote to kick. We get another tank and continue on. We get to the last boss and I notice as we are fighting that I got another whisper back from that player. It basically said, this is (so and so’s mom) and I’m just wondering what happened as he is upset and almost in tears and telling her he can’t play for another 30 minutes. So I explain that someone in the group voted to kick him, because he didn’t talk or answer their questions. She tells me that he is not allowed to talk to anyone while playing the game, it’s her and her husbands rule as they had problems with someone saying inappropriate things to him in the past. She told me he was 14 and they allow him to play for one hour a night, 2 hours on the weekend days. I apologized to her and said I was sorry but the game can have some toxic players sometimes, but we are not all that way.

In the end, I told her I would make another group with me leading and run him through a dungeon if he wanted in a little bit and he won’t be kicked out. So we waited and then I logged onto my main and took him though a dungeon run. He was a decent tank, just not allowed to talk because of his parents. I can sort of understand wanting to protect your kids. There are a lot of bad apples in our society today and some of them play games.

I’m 49, will be 50 in January and been playing this for around 20 years. I been gaming since the days of Intellivision and original Atari. I’ve played about everything that’s ever been popular on PC, console, etc. and there are always a few toxic players in every game I’ve played. I’m not advocating for or against the vote to kick system as I think it has its place , but yes, it can be abused. I don’t think there is any good solution to it, to be honest. The dungeon we were in, did not require any coordination or talking either, so it was just one person basically upset his questions were not answered and he decided to use the games kick system to exact his punishment.

I’ve racked my brain trying to think of a way Blizz could make the kick system fair to people like that kid, but also still be available for when people really need it. There just is no real solution. If they removed the kick time out penalty, then toxic players just reque and ruin someone elses run. If they keep it in, then sometimes a player gets kicked who doesn’t deserve it. Sort of taking the good with the bad approach.

In the end, it is what it is and maybe the real problem are the people that vote YES to kick, when they know they should not. Sometimes I wonder why people just go along with the toxic mentality of one person in the group, instead of making up their own minds and doing the right thing. Then again, maybe this world really is getting worse, and people just care less and less about their fellow man. I pray it’s not that, I really do.

I think you got cat fished.

Joking.

[Rochavela-kelthuzad]

I was in this group and this is not true in any way. No one was talking and talking. We kicked the tank because he didn’t know what he was doing.
The tank was a 39 year old man named Greg with a wife and two kids and this is concern trolling.
Completely made up story .

[Forums-skeram]

@Oniana-lightnings-blade

people don’t even read the kick reasons anymore it’s so stupid.

I’ve brought this up before. They just click the box to get it off their screen. I’ve seen “lol” “lmao” “idiot” “loser” “stole my gear” and many other ridiculous reasons. I always vote no and sometimes it loses but most often, it passes because people don’t care.

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Crithappenz-ghostlands

She told me he was 14 and they allow him to play for one hour a night, 2 hours on the weekend days.

2 hours on the weekend ? What is he in some kinda camp lol… I played spongebob on the wii with my daughter all the time all day

[Vulkova-illidan]

I see vote to kick i hit yes, simple as.

[Worri-stormrage]

People don’t talk in dungeons, at most a gg at the end, so cool story bro.

[Skalpy-darkspear]

If I didn’t trust my kid to handle people saying things to him on the internet at 14 I probably wouldn’t let him be on the internet at 14.

It sucks that the world is what it is but it’s a parents job to teach them to survive it, not be their snowplow who shields them from life and needs to speak to the group leader when they get kicked from a group

Or make them jump through weird hoops because of their own damage.

[Ronnexus-dalaran]

It is my kid got banned from talking because he started to repeat the bad stuff we cant control others but we can not stoop to there lvl.

[Miriel-dathremar (Miriel)]

I did the same when my kid were younger; all chat off, they couldn’t talk to anyone. They were also occasionally kicked from dungeons but because I also play WoW I told them not to worry and to do other stuff while they waited to go back in.

Honestly, usually it was something they did wrong because they were learning, but people are impatient and intolerant, and I told my kids that.

I never kick or report unless there are really good reasons, because I always wonder if the person is a child or teen, or new and learning. Most of the time everyone just stays quiet because they are in discord!

My kids are older now and gaming-savvy so I think I taught them right!

[Beerd-nightslayer]

This.

As I age and here story’s like this I’m all the more grateful of my parents style of “I can give you advice you can take it or not but experience will always teach you”.

I made so many friends gaming from 13-16 in the MMO era as well. I can’t imagine not being allowed to socialize in an online game that was built around socialization (not WoW anymore)

[Skalpy-darkspear]

To be fair, it’s scary being a parent, especially today. I don’t envy the job.

[Meriweather-thunderlord]

@Miriel-dathremar

I did the same when my kid were younger; all chat off, they couldn’t talk to anyone.

100% this. Our kid played on my husband’s account with all the chat turned off. No one could talk to her and she couldn’t talk to anyone else. She could be on discord with our guild (several of us had youngsters playing at that time), and they would answer questions or talk to her, and the kids would often be in channels together as most of them were similar in age. It was actually one of the most wholesome things ever.

They got older, we got them their own accounts, and many of those kids raided with us until they left for college, including ours.

I never once tried to communicate with anyone in a dungeon our daughter played through, and I can’t imagine a scenario in which I would have, but the “my kid plays but isn’t allowed to talk to people” part tracks 100%.