yeah and you can also get other good gear from pve in 4 lockouts, thats not the point. the point is that pvping was supposed to be the main source of pvp gear with them adding the vendor back. but with the current conquest system thats not the case, pve is by far a better source for gear at the moment. that leads to the double standard of pvpers having to pve to get gear meanwhile pve’ers will never have to touch pvp for gear still in existence.