The only difference from BFA is loss of rapid reload on AoE which was nice, but still, not that huge from rotation perspective.
The number output is very diff from play-style.
should have and were not guess the rest of us cant have fun as a whole either. Nevermind the fact we wont have a major Global outside BW and what a stupid trinket or 2 next expac now. COW is a joke damage wise Dire packs finally been fixed. We loose Legos conduits and covenants abilities. the nerf was not justified when it would balance itself out.
This is true. I mostly play PvP so for me, BM just wasnât a viable option. I should have been more clear.
The nerf to damage can easily be offset by other damage tuning (weâre going to get some damage compared to what we were doing once a few bugs get resolved), but the war orders has no correlation with the other issues that you did point out correctly of our CDs being basically useless atm.
Again, having a spec be basically 2 buttons only was not good for design, especially where 1 of those buttons is also mostly used to buff the other one. There would be far too few possible interractions for our tier / potential tuning (only basically working with our KC damage and it affecting both st and AoE)
Making a more diverse rotation would actually give potential for more improvements and better design choices.
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Diverse rotation YOU NEVER HIT COBRA SHOT PRE Season 3 unless it was focus spender Tiers set barely boosted the damage. its whole purpose was focus spender when we can spend it on KC for more effective damge with aoe now too it makes no sense to waste time on it
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Iâm sorry sir, what game were you playing ?
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same game as you that was the point before double KC
Who cares.
BM has always been a 2-3 (maybe 4 if weâre being generous) spec. This time around the 2 buttons felt fluid and fun.
Cobra doesnât make it more complex, itâs a filler that feels bad to press and eats focus.
Survival is riddled with bugs and is kind of clunky now and the damage is nothing to write home about, MM is dogwater. BM was the best of the worst.
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my point right here but he does not seem to unstands its a focus spender when we have to much focus lol
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Season 3 Shadowlands :
Season 1 Shadowlands :
Season 3 BFA :
Season 1 BFA :
End of Legion :
It was always one of our most used abilities and was active in a rotation.
Pure ST DF :
The ability falling off to being used ± every 15 sec or so (and doing < 1% dmg at that) is not good design as itâs basically 2nd arcane shot that exists, but doesnât do anything.
Bringing number of KC resets down allows for this to actually work with it and for there to be more engaging mechanics / tuning.
But then again, people would prefer just going back to old hunter where 90% of your dmg comes from pets AAing.
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Tier set at least made it feel as though it was worth something.
BM needs a revamp we evidently arenât getting anytime soon, but Iâm trying to be optimistic in the meantime.
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looks like you are doing your rotation wrong just did a 24 workshop and KC is on top lol you can look all my previous raid parses to when you dont know how to play BM right Cobra will always be on top even in Season 3 cobra shot was not #1 damage
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Beast cleave should be on top for most keys. This was even before pre-patch.
Looking at one of my old logs ( Skolex ), KC was at the top followed closely by cobra and then Wild Spirits. No clue if this was optimal play.
All of those are from top1-2 rank parses in the world.
I donât think i will.
Thereâs a big difference between being not #1 damage (but still one of the higher casts) and being very low casts and effectively negligible damage contribution.
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it wont let me link my logs but they are searchable if you want to compare
lol when you really dont look and just look at the first page while me and my guild push mythic raid for fun with barely have people lol okay did you look at the rest or are you just going to go off a snippet sorry not a CE person but do push keys.
It provides KC CDR. Thatâs pretty much always been its function in recent memory excluding PvP and S3 tier set.
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It also provided some damage.
I donât think that cobra shot should be our top damaging ability (granted we donât have a lot of room with the number of our buttons and lack of cds), but it should still be used more frequently. I would agree that the button itself is underpowered right now and needs to be addressed.
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Pre-nerf Bm was fun to play despite it having poo damage and pet dieing to easy. Now BM play as it did in SL but worst if that is a thing. Bm had a good opener, now it a old rng opener.
BM and to that MM did not need a nerf. Really, they needed a buff. Every melee in pvp 2-3 tap me before I even finish my opener and they took 10% damage that heals.
Heck War get leech on top of other healing. So they hit hard and heal. While we donât hit hard and have our leech become useless.
Also like to note that BM is pretty useless on some raid bosses, ie: Sire Denathrius (with the range adds).
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BM seemed fine every season for BFA and ShadowlandsâŠno complaints from me yet for prepatch.