time or quit is a common thing. Most people are fine with it.
All of mine that went over time, we still finished. We still get gear and valor.
Sometimes this is not possible. Years ago, I did a +11 Waycrest, it was my key, I was starting BFA late, had been leading (tanking) all my own keys to that point, And along comes this pally healer with a good looking score on RaiderIOâŚ
We get past the 1st boss and SOMETHING in this guyâs mind goes off the rails! He goes from passive and mild-mannered to SUPER TOXIC toward me for no reason. And I mean, he attacked everything about my person, about how I was playing and started to tell me how to play-- But had no idea what he was talking about; going on to recommend several trap talents, and that I should lose Unholy Crusader enchant, etc, etc
He didnât leave mind you, and I did not respond in kind to his verbal assaults, and we did finish the run, but it was by far the most memorable, and unpleasant, experience I have ever had in a mythic+
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Vailnite,
Perhaps what you need to do is to report people like this. Perhaps if Blizzard gets enough reports about people like this, they will take steps to perma-ban them so that they can stop abusing people.
Stop. Pugging.
Itâs that simple.
Just. Stop. Pugging.
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Yes because itâs so so so hard socializing!
The problem with a penalty for leaving is there are valid reasons for doing so and no system is going to be able to accurately determine that, at least not until we have Skynet as GM support.
I guess youâre happy with the declining population of WoW. If youâre still around when it becomes a more serious problem, donât pretend like you werenât part of the problem. 
I love how this keeps coming back up like it is not a work around that works fine for you, but gates out new and returning players. If you donât like how people want to manage pugging, and you donât pug yourself, why do you even care when solutions wonât impact you? Why are you even commenting in a thread about pugging? It would be like me giving a crap about pet battles.
Really that is the sort of toxic crap people are talking about in the first place. People with years of friends in their battle.net contacts, a guild, communities they have joined, acting high and mighty like a fresh player should be able to form groups the same way. All that support you have from years of trial and error, and for some reason youâre resentful people want to streamline the process to get there.
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Honestly the solution is to just learn how to cope and stop being such a baby over a bricked key. Itâs just a game. Read the death toll in turkey and syria over the earthquake if you want perspective over how dumb your âproblemsâ are.
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The majority of what I do is via pugs. Way more good groups than bad. When I do get someone toxic they just go on the ignore list.
if thereâs one thing that i learned from doing m+ since legion was:
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Never invite ragnaros/azralon player or any SA/OCE servers. They tend to DC, lag, or have any internet issue. They are good and all but their internet, not so much
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Ignore the âAsk many questions guy before the dungeon startâ
If someone start asking questions like: A) Whats your route? B) do you have X trinket cuz i have C) Everyone have consumables, right? - avoid them at all cost, they are the first one to leave when
hit the fan -
this one is the most dangerous type of player - that player that whisp you âbro this X player io is awfulâ
Because people keep posting them, wringing their hands about how awful everything is and how something really should be done.
Meanwhile, everyone else looks on and sees people who keep banging their heads into the wall and then complaining about the headaches they get, when thereâs a really simple solution to get rid of the headaches.
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I explained how people cope: It is called playing another game. Bad solution if you want long term health for this one.
Or you know, as a customer, people could demand of a buisness a better process to avoid them. How would someone do that⌠OH RIGHT! How about not be a baby about it when they do?
I donât live in Turkey or Syria. Most of us donât. Unless you canceled your sub and sent that money for aid, youâre just exploiting a tragedy to distract from the 
of your point, which is toxic as hell.
For reference too, I have zero friends in WoW, zero interest in making friends in WoW, always start new groups after every run, and always pug solo. I got as far as I got under the same limitations as you. Difference is I am the one who leaves keys and I never cry when other people do the same. I just move on and go next. Like everyone else should do too. Bricked keys are part of life. Sometimes you have to be the one to brick a key.
I think the chicken little thing youâre doing isnât doing you any favours. The sky isnât falling. Itâs not a big deal. Just engage in the system. You can personally ignore anyone who leaves a key if you want to be unreasonable and entitled. There is nothing stopping YOU from making your own blacklist.
I wouldnât be surprised if during the first run the tank was just embarassed and bailed before people could call them out.
The second run is a great example why nobody should say anything during an M+ run if they want to complete the key. I have never seen criticism, constructive or not, improve a dungeon run. It always results in people raging and leaving. Sounds like the healer was being toxic, but the dps player should have just stayed quiet. Why even bring up not getting hero fast enough? Is that really worth risking the group falling apart?
Pffft, I cant even get 15s completed with the turds I find in mythic+. I think I am up to 35+ fails (90% of them from ditchers), and 7 successful. I just donât want to do them anymore. I thought it would be fun to get at least 2400 or even 2500. It has just been a giant waste of time. Form group, pick out carefully from IO scores / completions. You still end up with people who have no idea what they are doing. All it takes in 1 moron to ruin the run too. You might as well just close your eyes and invite anything that pops up at this point. IO scores seem to mean nothing at all.
Sure run them with guild or friends. My friends list is empty now, everyone playing WoW quit. My guild doesnât do keys. Just raiding. I am also ranked 4th on my server for alliance as a hunter. Can we say dead server? lol All you have to compete on my server is a +5 to be ranked in the top 100 even.
My sub runs out in 4 days, I donât think I will be re subbing. Not till season 2 at least.
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There are valid reasons to leave a key, that any reasonable group of people will understand as long as you communicate what youâre doing.
Shouldnât need a punishment to keep people from acting like spoiled babies⌠but Iâm all for disciplinary actions against people who donât treat their teammates with at least a modicum of respect.
yes a criminal backround check
credit check
and at least 3 character witnesses
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As someone who came from TN back in vanilla and BC, I can sympathize. Iâve logged on some of my older alts lately and Orgrimmar is just dead. It being TOTALLY empty is really depressing even though I think youâre 3 or 4 servers linked now. People from big servers think there is no problem but they just have no idea I guess.
I donât blame you and I donât think you are unique. But people would rather be trite and elitist rather than try to fix a problem they have solved through server transfers and extensive friends lists⌠or just being part of the problem and exploiting the anonymity of the internet.
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I hardly believe a level 27 human warrior organized and even entered a +20 Algathar Academy.